A Land Rover for the Farmer

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
BMC Austin Gypsy. Never really took off did it?
Probably due to lack of jet propulsion and no runways long enough to allow take off?

Anyone who can re badge the real Land Rover as a comfortable and practical 4x4 that can go anywhere, at a realistic price will sell millions of them to farmers,civil engineering companies, and aspiring townies who want to have the ultimate (apart from tractors) go anywhere 4x4 vehicle parked in their drive.
 

Paddington

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Location
Soggy Shropshire
td5 Discovery?
If so, they did still fit a central differential lock as the transfer box is the same as fitted to the older tdi versions, they just didn't fit the lever to operate it in the td5s. It can be retro-fitted though.
First thing I checked after buying mine was to see if I could do that but the diff lock is not fitted to my poverty spec and would need to get a new transfer box. :(
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I own and run a 100 series with the 1HD-FTE and a neighbour had a Nissan Patrol with the 1HZ Nissan equivalent 4.2 diesel, whatever it was called. [I'll have to Google the name of that engine but I did know it once].
There is nothing in common with the 1HZ in current Land Cruisers although it could be argued that they used the same machine tools to build the direct injection turbocharged 1HD from around 1988. The mechanical injection pump that you seem to be a fan of was the only part, apart from poor synchromesh, that let me down badly on my old 80 series. It was a dreadfully unreliable rotary pump based on a Bosch design and it was known to fail, as mine did at vast expense. It also had all kinds of mechanical external adjustments for timing advance plus a wax-initiated cold start device. Horrible thing it was. Not the engine, but the injection system. The later electronically controlled pump, as fitted to my 100 series is far simpler to set up with most adjustments done by the ECU and is far more reliable.

You see, contrary to popular opinion, I just don't need Google very often. I have years of practical experience and interest in these things to call on. Also have a full set of Toyota workshop manuals in the cupboard a metre away from my left shoulder, one of which it the engine repair manual covering the 1HZ, 1HD-T and the 1HD-FTE. Manual number RM617E.
Can't argue with your experience and have to take your word for it. My experience, and that of a whole generation of miners, surveyors, farmers, hunters and guides in Southern and East Africa - and, I think, in Oz and NZ too - is at odds with you. And all I have met and discussed this subject with have, without exception, always favoured the Cruisers and their engines over any other vehicle, in terms of reliability and ride. Only a Unimog was ever preferred, and that for absurdly rough ground, and only a very few org's had them because of cost and availability; I can't remember for Zim, but in Tanzania I think only the National Parks mob and their College ran mogs regularly.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Can't argue with your experience and have to take your word for it. My experience, and that of a whole generation of miners, surveyors, farmers, hunters and guides in Southern and East Africa - and, I think, in Oz and NZ too - is at odds with you. And all I have met and discussed this subject with have, without exception, always favoured the Cruisers and their engines over any other vehicle, in terms of reliability and ride. Only a Unimog was ever preferred, and that for absurdly rough ground, and only a very few org's had them because of cost and availability; I can't remember for Zim, but in Tanzania I think only the National Parks mob and their College ran mogs regularly.

I wasn't comparing it with any other vehicle but even though I have owned my current Land Cruiser 100 series for fully 19 years and had an 80 series for a period before that, I don't have any bias and certainly no rose coloured spectacles when assessing any machine. The LC is generally very reliable but they have not been perfect by any means. They haven't yet built the commonly mentioned 'bomb proof' vehicle. They all have their faults and the synchro on 80 series was particularly poor [later ones had improved dual cone synchros] and so was the mechanical injector pump. The 1HZ was well outclassed by its successor, the 1HD and in turn these are outclassed by newer engines. The 80 series front axles were prone to CV joint [I think they were referred to as Birfield joints or similar] issues and the 100 series has a weak front diff crown wheel when strained in reverse, which is known to grenade, and can suffer cracked lower front suspension arms in tough conditions. I could go on, but you get the gist I'm sure.
 
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Paddington

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Location
Soggy Shropshire
So Sir has decided on the 90 ? An excellent choice if I may say so, they would love these in the States, only they aren't allowed to import them, some Federal safety laws or something.
Beautiful cars, hand built you know in Solihull, Sir. This model is one of the rare signed versions, you can just make out "Kev woz ere" on the front wing.
May I suggest some extras ?
Many of our customers find Recaro seats and padded door rests to reduce bruising in normal day to day use, a couple of thousand only.
Certainly, Sir.
Will Sir be venturing far with his 90 ? Africa or Asia perhaps ?
Birmingham ?
Then I would suggest our urban survival pack, Sir.
As you may know Defenders are Thatcham rated for security with one star but our pack improves this.
Er, I think that Skoda over there has a four star rating, but it's probably like with golf the lower number the better.
Now our pack includes tamperproof bolts on doors and bonnets which are revered by the travelling car part community, oh and we throw in a tracker as well for a thousand, plus yearly subscription of course.
Full breakdown cover ?
Of course, Sir.
Should Sir decide on any long journeys may I recommend the services of Miss Rack at £100 per hour ? She is a qualified physiotherapist and chiropractor, available on 24 hour callout and she is Land Rover approved.
Certainly Sir !
 

john432

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Location
Carmarthenshire
That was the old Land Rover Santana Spanish operation, had rights for series vehicles in Hispanic countries. Latterly part of Suzuki, re-engined by Fiat who tried unsuccessfully to market one under the iveco badge if I remember rightly. Last ones had 2.8litre iveco van engine but still on leaf springs. They also built Suzuki sj 's in Europe.

I've a santana ps10 pick up, 07, bought it as a 3yr old with low mileage for 6K, does the job, but strangely the Santana hasn't gone up in value after they ceased production! Quite the opposite!
 

Drillman

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Mixed Farmer
So to recap-

A reclusive billionaire has bought the plans for the defender and is bringing out an improved version!

Hmmm this sounds vaguely familiar.....



Dinna, dinna, dinna, dinna


BATMAN........
 

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