A Novice and his Aitchison Grassfarmer.

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’ve had a Simtech for 6 years now and I’ve never had mice cause any damage to the foams. I never leave seed in the drill though (other than overnight occasionally) and take the back covers off to expose the rollers when parked up over winter.

How much of a mouse problem have you guys got??

Hungry ones... Herself informed me today that a rodent has eaten into a 10kg bag of slug pellets !! Hard buggers down here over the Border ;)
 
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JD-Kid

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I’ve had a Simtech for 6 years now and I’ve never had mice cause any damage to the foams. I never leave seed in the drill though (other than overnight occasionally) and take the back covers off to expose the rollers when parked up over winter.

How much of a mouse problem have you guys got??
have heard of a few rollers eaten over a long lunch break on a drill most older drills where people have drilled with op seed dressings never have any probs with foam getting attacked
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
A Box drills are bit behind the times surely anyway, blown is more accurate steadier up hill and down dale and consistent in humpy bumpy and Tis a right caper keeping a small amount if small seeds over outlets at the end of a job.


For Over winter storage, why not hoist him up in under the roof, on a chain block up to steel beam/ rafters , keeps mice out and saves shed space as hes in the sheep shed but above their 'eads :rolleyes: ...thats what I do with me old fiona, anyway ....else they chew on the plastic meter wheels on him as well and they ain't cheap even if you can get them.
 
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hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
have heard of a few rollers eaten over a long lunch break on a drill most older drills where people have drilled with op seed dressings never have any probs with foam getting attacked
That's the sort of stories I've heard as well. Eaten overnight especially.
I'm a bit annoyed about the rodent stopper option though. I'd have had one if I'd known it was a thing.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
A Box drills are bit behind the times surely anyway, blown is more accurate steadier up hill and down dale and consistent in humpy bumpy and Tis a right caper keeping a small amount if small seeds over outlets at the end of a job.


For Over winter storage, why not hoist him up in under the roof, on a chain block up to steel beam/ rafters , keeps mice out and saves shed space as hes in the sheep shed but above their 'eads :rolleyes: ...thats what I do with me old fiona, anyway ....else they chew on the plastic meter wheels on him as well and they ain't cheap even if you can get them.
Other way around; these are far more accurate drills than any airseeders I've used, for their width.
The downside is the smaller the drill, the more overlap/underlap you can generate with pilot error.

That's why these use the foam meter system, they are much less affected by vibration than other meter systems in use.

A pressurised manifold means air leakage through the seed is inevitable -unless you keep backing off the blower speed as the seed level in the bin decreases - one of the best investments you can make is a spare bag of every type of seed you sow to rollover, you only buy the seed once and it keeps the rate constant at the end of the drilling job
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
That's the sort of stories I've heard as well. Eaten overnight especially.
I'm a bit annoyed about the rodent stopper option though. I'd have had one if I'd known it was a thing.

I don't think it is an option on the SimTech, only on the (recent) Aitchison, where they buy the seeder units from.

As above, I have never had a problem, yet anyway (although there's a bit of seed barley sitting in it currently....).

I did replace all the foams on my old drill, which was secondhand when I bought it and some were misshapen/worn. Soaked them in a bit of petrol to dissolve the glue, cleaned the plastic discs and glued new foams on. A bit of a faff, and you wouldn't want to have to do it when you need to go drilling today, but foams were only about a fiver each iirc.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
A Box drills are bit behind the times surely anyway, blown is more accurate steadier up hill and down dale and consistent in humpy bumpy and Tis a right caper keeping a small amount if small seeds over outlets at the end of a job.


For Over winter storage, why not hoist him up in under the roof, on a chain block up to steel beam/ rafters , keeps mice out and saves shed space as hes in the sheep shed but above their 'eads :rolleyes: ...thats what I do with me old fiona, anyway ....else they chew on the plastic meter wheels on him as well and they ain't cheap even if you can get them.

IKWYM about keeping seed in the the wee mini hoppers insde the main hopper. I accept that the easiest method is to have a bit more seed in the hopper!! I would say that the foam metering is about as accurate as anything going and simple to boot...

Got a pair of old Fionas here that are off to the scrappy once they open, if you want some bits. ;)
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
Other way around; these are far more accurate drills than any airseeders I've used, for their width.
The downside is the smaller the drill, the more overlap/underlap you can generate with pilot error.

That's why these use the foam meter system, they are much less affected by vibration than other meter systems in use.

A pressurised manifold means air leakage through the seed is inevitable -unless you keep backing off the blower speed as the seed level in the bin decreases - one of the best investments you can make is a spare bag of every type of seed you sow to rollover, you only buy the seed once and it keeps the rate constant at the end of the drilling job

Pilot error... whats that...? ;) I intend putting a pair of markers on the wee drill, just to give me a clearer mark to drive on. Maybe the autosteer will sort this! (Which I don't actually have....yet!)

Agree totally about the seed "surplus" idea, it always comes in somewhere.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Other way around; these are far more accurate drills than any airseeders I've used, for their width.
The downside is the smaller the drill, the more overlap/underlap you can generate with pilot error.

That's why these use the foam meter system, they are much less affected by vibration than other meter systems in use.

A pressurised manifold means air leakage through the seed is inevitable -unless you keep backing off the blower speed as the seed level in the bin decreases - one of the best investments you can make is a spare bag of every type of seed you sow to rollover, you only buy the seed once and it keeps the rate constant at the end of the drilling job
Spare bag of ordinary grass mix , yes I agree good thing to do ,you only need to buy that spare bag once so to speak ( even with grass seed at 60 to 70 quid / acre :eek:)
But I'm referring to the likes of Timothy, lucerne clovers etc solo small seeds .
Not that the way I do it with that size seed is relivant here because I'm into broadcasting at next to zero depth.

Some sort of inert medium would be ideal, (that's what I've done with luc. In the past, using poor to nill germination but dry old grass seed mixed with it ) to bulk up in the hopper, and sowing heavier rates is always more reliable whatever method used.

Btw Pete , you're not Elvis are you by any chance ? :unsure:??
 
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Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Pilot error... whats that...? ;) I intend putting a pair of markers on the wee drill, just to give me a clearer mark to drive on. Maybe the autosteer will sort this! (Which I don't actually have....yet!)

Agree totally about the seed "surplus" idea, it always comes in somewhere.
I always put the baleforks on the FEL and crowd them so that the tips of the forks line up with the boot-mark I'm following.
Makes a hell of a difference to overlap!

Yeah, just mix your rollover seed from last year into the brew, and put a bag away in the freezer for next year.

I did a HEAP of contracting and 98% of farmers buy just enough seed for their area, bloody nervewracking. :banhappy:
I was convinced that seed and gate-chains must be the most expensive farming inputs around....
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Spare bag of ordinary grass mix , yes I agree good thing to do ,you only need to buy that spare bag once so to speak ( even with grass seed at 60 to 70 quid / acre :eek:)
But I'm referring to the likes of Timothy, lucerne clovers etc solo small seeds .
Not that the way I do it with that size seed is relivant here because I'm into broadcasting at next to zero depth.

Some sort of inert medium would be ideal, (that's what I've done with luc. In the past, using poor to nill germination but dry old grass seed mixed with it ) to bulk up in the hopper, and sowing heavier rates is always more reliable whatever method used.

Btw Pete , you're not Elvis are you by any chance ? :unsure:??
Rice is good (y)
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Spare bag of ordinary grass mix , yes I agree good thing to do ,you only need to buy that spare bag once so to speak ( even with grass seed at 60 to 70 quid / acre :eek:)
But I'm referring to the likes of Timothy, lucerne clovers etc solo small seeds .
Not that the way I do it with that size seed is relivant here because I'm into broadcasting at next to zero depth.

Some sort of inert medium would be ideal, (that's what I've done with luc. In the past, using poor to nill germination but dry old grass seed mixed with it ) to bulk up in the hopper, and sowing heavier rates is always more reliable whatever method used.

Btw Pete , you're not Elvis are you by any chance ? :unsure:??

Very true on ultra low seed rates being an issue. My little 1m 6 row Logic Spider drill* was much better with a sacrificial bulking material, and yes, I have used cheap rice from the store cupboard in the past! Not sure about in the GF, might need to pop to Costco for a 20kg bag!


Must remember to get an advertise it tfor sale his weekend!!!
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
I always put the baleforks on the FEL and crowd them so that the tips of the forks line up with the boot-mark I'm following.
Makes a hell of a difference to overlap!

Yeah, just mix your rollover seed from last year into the brew, and put a bag away in the freezer for next year.

I did a HEAP of contracting and 98% of farmers buy just enough seed for their area, bloody nervewracking. :banhappy:
I was convinced that seed and gate-chains must be the most expensive farming inputs around....

Tight wad farmers hey? :ROFLMAO:

I've got a FEL on the Kubota, so will have to have a look next time....
 

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