A second referendum on BREXIT the end of democratic government.

[Pilatus]

As above.

 

[Stuart J]

Statement or a question?

Is Quebec undemocratic because they've had multiple referenda on independence?

 

[Muck Spreader]

Statement or a question?

Is Quebec undemocratic because they've had multiple referenda on independence?

Likewise Scotland has already had multiple referenda on independence. And I am sure they will be asked again in the next few years. Only a dictatorship would ever prohibit it's population from changing it's mind. A democracy can change it's mind as often as it's wants, even if at times this is inconvenient for the politicians.

 

[linga]

Likewise Scotland has already had multiple referenda on independence. And I am sure they will be asked again in the next few years. Only a dictatorship would ever prohibit it's population from changing it's mind. A democracy can change it's mid as often as it's wants, even if at times this is inconvenient for the politicians.

Only if given a chance to.
Wasnt there a 40 year wait for a referendum on membership of the EU?
Seems only fair to wait another 40 to have another!

 

[Muck Spreader]

Only if given a chance to.
Wasnt there a 40 year wait for a referendum on membership of the EU?
Seems only fair to wait another 40 to have another!

There has to be a significant demand, there hasn't been and wasn't until Cameron decided to make it a political issue in an effort to protect the interests Conservative party from an imagined threat from UKIP.

 

[linga]

There has to be a significant demand, there hasn't been and wasn't until Cameron decided to make it a political issue in an effort to protect the interests Conservative party from an imagined threat from UKIP.

I think there probably was a demand

 

[baabaa]

There has to be a significant demand, there hasn't been and wasn't until Cameron decided to make it a political issue in an effort to protect the interests Conservative party from an imagined threat from UKIP.

eu election 2014
nige ukip 24 seats
camoron con 19

imagined threat

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Norway has held a referendum multiple times and so far it has always been a no.

Norway's economy and voter demographics will change over time, and the EU will evolve over time, so keeping options open would seem sensible.

 

[czechmate]

As was pointed out on question time last night. More than one wasn't deemed undemocratic in Wales. Perhaps @linga has conveniently forgotten that?

 

[wanton dwarf]

Likewise Scotland has already had multiple referenda on independence. And I am sure they will be asked again in the next few years. Only a dictatorship would ever prohibit it's population from changing it's mind. A democracy can change it's mind as often as it's wants, even if at times this is inconvenient for the politicians.

We have a general election every 5 years.

There is no need for another referendum.

If there needs to be questions asked of the public then put forward a manifesto instead.

Mrs May and all the MPs are scared to death of the fact she has lied. She'll be dropped like the dead weight she is.

All those not supporting the will of their constituents will also lose their jobs and more importantly those inhibiting in HMG will be removed.

A referendum does not get rid of Remainer MPs.

 

[Muck Spreader]

We have a general election every 5 years.

There is no need for another referendum.

If there needs to be questions asked of the public then put forward a manifesto instead.

Mrs May and all the MPs are scared to death of the fact she has lied. She'll be dropped like the dead weight she is.

All those not supporting the will of their constituents will also lose their jobs and more importantly those inhibiting in HMG will be removed.

A referendum does not get rid of Remainer MPs.

You can't join and leave the EU every five years.

 

[wanton dwarf]

You can't join and leave the EU every five years.

Makes a mockery of your point then doesn't it.

My point stands that a referendum only benefits Remoaners as they have the backstop of Remainer MPs in situ.

THAT has to change .. they are totally unrepresentative.

THAT needs a general election.

 

[Muck Spreader]

eu election 2014
nige ukip 24 seats
camoron con 19

imagined threat

I wasn't talking about the EU election, but it illustrates the point I have made on numinous occasions that if the UK population took these elections seriously and elected proper politicians with a genuine interest in their constituents and country we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

 

[oil barron]

Likewise Scotland has already had multiple referenda on independence. And I am sure they will be asked again in the next few years. Only a dictatorship would ever prohibit it's population from changing it's mind. A democracy can change it's mind as often as it's wants, even if at times this is inconvenient for the politicians.

Interestingly referendums are illegal in Germany as Hitler had used them as a tool to support the rise of populism.

 

[baabaa]

I wasn't talking about the EU election, but it illustrates the point I have made on numinous occasions that if the UK population took these elections seriously and elected proper politicians with a genuine interest in their constituents and country we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

why would they take an election seriously,
where the elected cannot form a government or initiate legislation?
of course the elected are very well remunerated for for doing some rubber stamping

 

[baabaa]

I wasn't talking about the EU election, but it illustrates the point I have made on numinous occasions that if the UK population took these elections seriously and elected proper politicians with a genuine interest in their constituents and country we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

just like to add
do you think the italians were taking it seriously when they elected salvini an mep?

of course your fellow french citizens were taking it seriously when they elected ms le pen
they even elected one bruno gollnisch,
who has been known to drop his drawers while speaking in public

 

[Muck Spreader]

Interestingly referendums are illegal in Germany as Hitler had used them as a tool to support the rise of populism.

Probably a sensible solution. Referendums are a cop out for politicians who are incapable of making the important and complex decisions we vote them into make. This has just been proved admirably over the last two and a half years.

 

[Exfarmer]

Why are Brexiteers afraid of a second referendum, a positive result would show that is what the popiulation want, a no vote would just be democracy in action.
We are all entitled to change our mind.

 

[ollie989898]

Why are Brexiteers afraid of a second referendum, a positive result would show that is what the popiulation want, a no vote would just be democracy in action.
We are all entitled to change our mind.

We have already voted once, we just want a fudging government to carry out the democratic wishes of the electorate. Not a remain by the back door Brexit.

 

[caveman]

Why are Brexiteers afraid of a second referendum, a positive result would show that is what the popiulation want, a no vote would just be democracy in action.
We are all entitled to change our mind.

Same binary question.
Leave or remain.
Compulsory voting for all.
No problem.
Bring it on.