A VERY SERIOUS QUESTION FOR ALL WEATHER FORECASTING PROVIDERS??

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Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Drier than normal. Good. But you know me.....never happy.....so, when is it going to warm up ? Supposed to be warm last week. It wasn't. Supposed to be warm this week. It isn't. Now I hear record breaking temps this weekend......
 

flatliner

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Tyrone
Daffodils in bloom here yesterday, lumps of cattle out till 2nd week in January, spreading slurry with tankers on our driest ground, something's not right.
 

Spanish

Member
Here in Spain we have a very dry winter, they have very high temperatures for the weekend.

It is said that when in March, as in May, in May as in March, winter has never been eaten by the wolf. But.....
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
Here in Spain we have a very dry winter, they have very high temperatures for the weekend.

It is said that when in March, as in May, in May as in March, winter has never been eaten by the wolf. But.....


Dónde estás ? España es un país grande
 
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Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
Blo*dy h*ll, considering that you are only about 25/30 miles from me, the rain fall totals are very different , at least 100mm different.
Got hit by a lot of thunder storms last year. We were at a wedding near wilberfoss first weekend in June last year, just a wee shower at the wedding, 30mm at home.

We had 35mm from May 1 to the last week end in July, none of them were more than 7mm in a day. Only picked up the thunderstorms that last weekend of July, were cutting wheat the next week so was past anything by then.

Was talking to someone else in the vale of York and they had 17mm in the same time frame I think. So we were quite lucky to get a bit extra, in the end did more good than harm though
 
Location
East Mids
Director at our dairy today was warbling about what a marvellous spring everyone was predicting, a few folks locally got cows out already and how high production was. I asked him didn't he realise that in E Mids we were very short of water.

Sure we've had a bit more in Jan & Feb but our field ponds are way down, the ground is dry enough to be out spreading slurry (unheard of round here in mid Feb) and most people will have no forage in store by mid March so they will need to take extra silage to replenish.

Other than a couple of mm tonight there is nothing forecast for the rest of Feb so unless that changes, that will put us on 50mm for Jan/Feb 2019 and a TOTAL of 323mm for the 12 months of 2018, of which 46mm was Jan Feb so we are on a par with last year at present but with the starting point of a much lower water table and much lower forage stocks.

These make for interesting reading. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/water-situation-local-area-reports
 
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onthehoof

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cambs
What in a good or bad way
Nick...
Remember now it is all to do with position of the jet stream which is normally just above or below the British isles but is currently way way South about to send air from the tropics
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Massive warm advection going up through the UK from the tropics to the arctic is the problem just now with very cold air just 500 miles to the east or west of us. This is likely to spread out the arctic cold across the northern hemisphere in the next few weeks so the old uns saying we will pay for all this great weather has some science backing it. A wet chilly spring may beckon. The east of the UK will still be liable to low rainfall and on top of last years lack of rain then drought conditions may arise in the summer.

However the default pattern since the "beast from the east" a year ago seems to be high pressure near us which nearly allways gives us strong southerly winds and in our neck of the woods they are descending from the Cairngorm Mountains so are drying and warming as they reach us so drying up the ground even more. Lots of wells and springs drying up here so subsoil is still very dry and fields were dusty on the surface this last week up till light rain this evening.

Its a real concern that this high pressure will stick around so a second dry summer is a possibility just like 1975/1976

Part of the cause could be the lack of arctic ice immediately to the north of us allowing different pressure patterns to take hold because of reduced thermal gradient between the arctic and the equator and giving less energy to the jetstream. Climate change is very real and extremes will become more common.
 

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