AB15 2 year legume fallow

Flat 10

Member
Location
Fen Edge
Can you bale this and feed it after 30th June? I read as you can (and you can for ordinary fallow as I believe @static does) but is this right. An advisor tried to say I couldn't. Also can I grow ab15,ab15, ww, ab15, ab15 for my 5 year agreement?
I believe @silverfox and @Two Tone are using these options? and I'll tag @Brisel as I know he's read the book thoroughly.....:)
As ever any help gratefully received.
F 10.
 
Thanks. Ok so I'm only slightly muddled why isn't it in the winter bird food part? Looking at that option there is surely plenty of WBF?
No idea. Guess it has to go in one or other parts. I remember being annoyed that you couldn't put other options that aren't listed on that page in either section when it was clear they would satisfy the overall aim. In the end we now have a big area of extended overwinter stubble which I don't think is very good for the soil even if it is helpful for birds.
 

Jason

Member
Location
South West
Been looking at some CS options with a friend today - quick google and it seems that I need to revive this thread..

Was any supporting documentation offered when it was said this option cannot be cut and baled? Reading the simple spec as linked above it seems you can largely do as you please? Also interested in the wording of the species composition - 'sow a mix in the autumn based on the suggestions below...' does the word 'based' allow some tweaking in terms of ratio's and perhaps extras added (not Cocksfoot!)?? @Feldspar @Brisel
 
Been looking at some CS options with a friend today - quick google and it seems that I need to revive this thread..

Was any supporting documentation offered when it was said this option cannot be cut and baled? Reading the simple spec as linked above it seems you can largely do as you please? Also interested in the wording of the species composition - 'sow a mix in the autumn based on the suggestions below...' does the word 'based' allow some tweaking in terms of ratio's and perhaps extras added (not Cocksfoot!)?? @Feldspar @Brisel
Will send you the email I have tomorrow if it rains.
 

Fat hen

Member
Is anyone else trying to kill off a whole lot of clover ?

Our AB15 is 2-3ft deep in red clover with a ryegrass under-canopy. Too clayey to graze so am flailing to reveal the ryegrass then add spray when clovers grow again. Going in dd with ww before returning to AB15 next September.

Gotta say it's nice to see to see an abundance of growth and interesting to see how the different species dominate at different times. Almost feel guilty destroying it esp in flower. Must be doing structure some good with the diverse perennial rooting.
 

Fat hen

Member
That's what I've been told by someone officially . Top in first year but can only do what you want after 15th August in second year
Yes I think its important to ask NE and get it in email. There seems to be a lot of varying interpretations of rules by different NE staff and advisors. Rules are different for 2016 entrants to those thereafter. 2016 entrants, for example, are allowed to put the option into cropping for a year after Aug 15th year 2. Not so 2017 entrants.
 

Flat 10

Member
Location
Fen Edge
Yes I think its important to ask NE and get it in email. There seems to be a lot of varying interpretations of rules by different NE staff and advisors. Rules are different for 2016 entrants to those thereafter. 2016 entrants, for example, are allowed to put the option into cropping for a year after Aug 15th year 2. Not so 2017 entrants.
Are you sure?
 

Fat hen

Member
Am I sure about the ww after Aug 15th? Got it in writing. Advisors were saying no I am wrong but NE gave me it categorically.
 

Could a ‘Meat Tax’ be on the cards in the UK?

  • 216
  • 0
Written by Richard Halleron from Agriland

The latest machination coming from the so-called ‘opinion formers’, who seem to have the ear of government advisors in London, is the introduction of a ‘Meat Tax’ at consumer level.

This approach, it is argued, would have the combined impact of reducing meat consumption levels (I can really see the health benefits coming through now), while also helping to reduce the overall carbon footprint of production agriculture.

What absolute drivel! In my opinion, none of this makes sense at any level. This is a scurrilous and unfounded attack on livestock farming in this part of the world.

Yet, it has to be taken seriously. I make this point because economists at Rothamsted Research have already crunched the numbers where the introduction of a ‘UK...
Top