AB15 2 year legume fallow

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
Our ex AB15 ground ploughed up nicely. It has taken the rain better too. Much better than the awful ex spring oat ground that is like liver and last year’s stubble is visible in places.
 

silverfox

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Location
Shropshire
Ready for baling now. I'm excited to know just what has been "produced" from this land. Carbon capture, habitat, bit of forage. And was it good value? And what on earth is the ground going to work up like!
What’s that going to be used for . Forage or AD . Baling and wrapping makes it an expensive job. Everyone’s got tons of surplus forage around here this year .
 
What’s that going to be used for . Forage or AD . Baling and wrapping makes it an expensive job. Everyone’s got tons of surplus forage around here this year .
Not the case 15miles South!! :unsure:

Might be looking for cheap big bales of hay in the North of the County... I am turning "set aside" grass areas into bales at the moment, and the cows can eat it or lie on it. Should have baled it today, but too busy getting birdy mix in!! ;)
 

teslacoils

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Location
Lincolnshire
Spring oat land is often a bit cack. Especially after the wet winter - no decent rooting. This clover stuff I'm going to solo and dad will power harrow straight behind. Spray off and drill in a month.
 

teslacoils

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Location
Lincolnshire
Would be interesting to know how many bales per acre when they get finished?
Looks like 80 bales from 17ac. Big bales. 30 percent moisture. Really dense. Ton each? Not sure but very, very heavy. Baler man seemed pleased. I'll be pleased once it's shifted, roundupped, limed, soloed, power harrowed and ready for wheat.

Lots of daddy longlegs. That's bad though isn't it?
 

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Looks like 80 bales from 17ac. Big bales. 30 percent moisture. Really dense. Ton each? Not sure but very, very heavy. Baler man seemed pleased. I'll be pleased once it's shifted, roundupped, limed, soloed, power harrowed and ready for wheat.

Lots of daddy longlegs. That's bad though isn't it?
Thanks, that gives me something to go on when the time comes to cut ours (if we get accepted for 1st Jan 2021, should do as have some SSSI so almost guaranteed to get inso I'm told).

It's optional to include grass in the seed mix from 2021. What do people think to pros and cons of including grass?

Bit more diversity and ground cover if establishment is iffy. Don't like idea of grass running to seed, and having grass in following cereal crop, although could use something like cocksfoot which I guess won't persist in cereals like ryegrass does.

Or just go straight legumes?
 

teslacoils

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
The view from the baler man was the grass gave it some bulk and made a better product. From my point of view, the grass holds the soil together better. The cost of course is grass seed return. But given I will be using a fairly robust preem anyway, and have never really had issues with tame ryegrass. Now, depending on taste I would have gone for a wider mix of grasses and included some tall fescue as I want a real thick mat of roots.

My daddy is in the next scheme and is going zero grass, as he will keep mulching it and is not bothered about the feed. He wants zero grass weeds. Anyway, mine will be a seedbed by next week, and can sit and grow junk until mid October.
 

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