CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
Does anyone know anything about or have any thoughts / opinions about the innovis shedding composite ?
Abershedder
- Thread starter CopperBeech
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- Scottish Borders
Aberfield over 300 of Pearce Hughes’s easycare ewes according to their faceache release. Wonder if it’s the same Pearce Hughes of Mayo Bolus fame?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I would think so.
easyram1
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- Location
- North Shropshire
Yes
Woolless
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- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
Is the Abershedder just the first cross of the Aberfield/EC combo?
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- Scottish Borders
Didn’t they say that the two Aberfield tups were shedding too?
Woolless
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- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
I don't know, haven't read the facebook post. If so, then it removes once concern that I would have about them i.e. how consistent will shedding be. But I've read very mixed reviews of the Aberfield on here and heard similar from people I know.
ISCO
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- North East
We lost our Aberfield tup after 1 season with pizzle rot. It was a blessing!.
He went onto swales with very disappointing results.
I’ve never met anyone who was happy with them!
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- West Wales
2 AF were bought, £2000 in orbenin later we cleared the pink eye. We lost 1 within a few months and the other we kept for a few years until it lost all its teeth, trying it on a few different type of ewes from welsh, mules and Texels, between bad mothering, mastitis and teeth going by 4 year old they’ve almost all self eradicated themselves, speaking to a few others they all had exact experience’s.
There is only so long you can sell sand to Arabs.
Sheepfog
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- Southern England
Very happy with my Aberfield crossbred ewes. Great mums - although that probably comes from the hill ewe. Don't scan ridiculously high:180-190% which is plenty for outdoor lambing. Lamb quality a step up from mules.
But, I would be very wary of buying an Innovis bred sheep in the future as their health status just isn't consistent enough. I know of a few farmers who have had problems with iceberg diseases in bought in rams. IMHO all their multipliers should be MV accredited and tested clear of other iceberg diseases.
For replacements I am planning to put a Logie maternal hybrid onto these ewes having heard good reports from other farmers. Logie Durno also have a very high health status, which is important as my whole flock is now all MV accredited for ease of management.
But, I would be very wary of buying an Innovis bred sheep in the future as their health status just isn't consistent enough. I know of a few farmers who have had problems with iceberg diseases in bought in rams. IMHO all their multipliers should be MV accredited and tested clear of other iceberg diseases.
For replacements I am planning to put a Logie maternal hybrid onto these ewes having heard good reports from other farmers. Logie Durno also have a very high health status, which is important as my whole flock is now all MV accredited for ease of management.
I didn’t know they weren’t mv accreted. That will probably be the end of them if they start spreading that about!
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- Scottish Borders
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- Montgomeryshire
Most of their flocks aren’t Mv accredited, but that doesn’t mean they have it, or are likely to ‘spread it about’.
They’d likely be a safer bet, on that score at least, than a lot of market Tups.
Woolless
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- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
I know of one flock that was going to sell tups of their own breeding at an Innovis sale and they had to undertake flock screening for iceberg diseases beforehand.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Yes, but apart from that?
When the Arab’s stop buying your sand, maybe you should just move on to a different tribe of Arab’s?
Will the Scot’s embrace them as willingly as a lot of Welsh shepherds did?
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- Montgomeryshire
Yes, I understood they screened for disease, rather than go down the accreditation route, which only covers a couple of icebergs anyway.
@Tim W ‘s group do the same I believe.
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- Dumfries & Galloway
Yes, but apart from that?
When the Arab’s stop buying your sand, maybe you should just move on to a different tribe of Arab’s?
Will the Scot’s embrace them as willingly as a lot of Welsh shepherds did?
Not going by the opinions given at the Carlisle sale I went to
Woolless
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- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
Just had a look at their faceache page. Louise Hobson from the Easycare society is giving them a right howking
They're also doing recorded Cheviots now, I see.
They're also doing recorded Cheviots now, I see.