Ad blue

DrDunc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
I've just got my first ad blue s/h tractor a few months ago, NH T7. Ad blue might become very expensive soon. Thinking of getting it mapped out. Are there drawbacks?
Only drawback is if some bureaucratic body decide on a job creation scheme and bring in tractor testing to ensure the adblue system in your tractor is working

Doesn't affect the engine performance, or longevity

Switch it off, but leave a little in the tank to stop crystallisation. It'll cost less than an ibc of adblue even at the current "low" cost

You can always get it turned back on if the world goes to hell in a handbag
 

Ali_Maxxum

Member
Location
Chepstow, Wales
I would leave it alone unless it starts giving bother. Diesel is expensive but it aint gonna go without that either....

If you've only the one tractor on it I wouldn't think you are going to be guzzling through it so much you're going to be worrying about paying for it. More than appreciate that every little helps but if it aint broke, why fix it.
 
Only drawback is if some bureaucratic body decide on a job creation scheme and bring in tractor testing to ensure the adblue system in your tractor is working

Doesn't affect the engine performance, or longevity

Switch it off, but leave a little in the tank to stop crystallisation. It'll cost less than an ibc of adblue even at the current "low" cost

You can always get it turned back on if the world goes to hell in a handbag
If you gotta get it turned back on at a later date don't expect it being as simple as the reverse of getting it turned off.
 

Ali_Maxxum

Member
Location
Chepstow, Wales
i think the point is that the tractor would perform the same without adblue unlike diesel
Of course.

What would a tractor like that use in 12 months/1000hrs, 1-2 barrels maybe depending on what it's doing? Hardly a dramatic amount in cost.

Only got to have a bump or be a bit a way from base and get stopped and they find out it's switched off, the ad blue will look cheap in comparison to any fines or even down time of being investigated.
 

DrDunc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Of course.

What would a tractor like that use in 12 months/1000hrs, 1-2 barrels maybe depending on what it's doing? Hardly a dramatic amount in cost.

Only got to have a bump or be a bit a way from base and get stopped and they find out it's switched off, the ad blue will look cheap in comparison to any fines or even down time of being investigated.
Valtra N134D used 1000l IBC after 2 years, 2800 hours

Cost for the man with the laptop £250, or 17 months of adblue usage (at current, not going to last for long price)

Chances of being the first person to ever get their tractor adblue tested? I reckon any fine will be paid by the winning lottery ticket that I'm due to be delivered by flying pigs 👍

Also in my case, I'd needed a new adblue unit at about 2500 hours, (thankfully under warranty), didn't fancy the thick the of a 2k bill if it went again after another 2500 hours......

...... Compared to £250 for a switch off? Think you'd need to be hellish risk adverse to turn that away
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Valtra N134D used 1000l IBC after 2 years, 2800 hours

Cost for the man with the laptop £250, or 17 months of adblue usage (at current, not going to last for long price)

Chances of being the first person to ever get their tractor adblue tested? I reckon any fine will be paid by the winning lottery ticket that I'm due to be delivered by flying pigs 👍

Also in my case, I'd needed a new adblue unit at about 2500 hours, (thankfully under warranty), didn't fancy the thick the of a 2k bill if it went again after another 2500 hours......

...... Compared to £250 for a switch off? Think you'd need to be hellish risk adverse to turn that away
I ahem! Know of someone who had a similar problem with a New Holland T7 235 after various resets it was decided a new as blu pump was required, Cost £1600 remap and delete £500.00 This person now thinks his tractor goes a lot better, far more low rev torque and is very happy.
 

Ali_Maxxum

Member
Location
Chepstow, Wales
I would say user experiences differ vastly, Case Maxxum 130CVX, 205L barrel would last us approx 1000hrs/12 months. Dosing unit failed last May at just shy of 6000hrs. Bill wasn't as bad as we expected so we've been quite happy with it.

Never heard of a laptop man for less than £600 to 'fix' that job. Not a fan of remapping for power either, but that's another topic.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Would deleting be classed as modifying?
It would invalidate the insurance wouldn't it? I've no idea if the insurance company would find out in the event of a claim though.
I don't see it as a problem at the moment but if rules change and dealers aren't allowed to sell anything that has had an emission delete it could hurt trade in prices.
I wouldn't do it because it would give me an unfair advantage over those that don't/won't run bent.
It doesn't seem to bother most people though.
 
I ahem! Know of someone who had a similar problem with a New Holland T7 235 after various resets it was decided a new as blu pump was required, Cost £1600 remap and delete £500.00 This person now thinks his tractor goes a lot better, far more low rev torque and is very happy.
Remap and delete you say. It'll be the remap that's made it go better not the delete then. Adblue is a complete after treatment and has no effect on engine operation, unlike egr. I'd much rather have adblue than egr.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Remap and delete you say. It'll be the remap that's made it go better not the delete then. Adblue is a complete after treatment and has no effect on engine operation, unlike egr. I'd much rather have adblue than egr.
I fully understand that, no more top end power just a bit of bottom end torque,
 

Andrew K

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
I would leave it alone as I care about reducing emissions. Messing about with your tractor wont save alot and could expose you to a fine, as others suggest.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Remap and delete you say. It'll be the remap that's made it go better not the delete then. Adblue is a complete after treatment and has no effect on engine operation, unlike egr. I'd much rather have adblue than egr.
It does. Many engines derate or won't even run without the adblue tank being sufficiently full.
 

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