Adding a new breed to a suckler herd

[Optimus]

For a while Charolais were the in demand breed around here, but over the last few years there seems to have been a change, Charolais are still popular but Angus seem to becoming popular again, there’s an article in this weeks farmers journal about it. We like the angus and have worked with them since going into breeding in 2014 but we need to breed good heifers with a bit of stretch about them to help with expansion because buying them is getting costly

What's the breeding of the AA bulls you use?

 

[Grahamc94]

What's the breeding of the AA bulls you use?

Got 2 fordel ones, 2 drumdow that are blaelack sired and a linburn one that’s in the picture

 

[Optimus]

Got 2 fordel ones, 2 drumdow that are blaelack sired and a linburn one that’s in the picture



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Most of my bulls have been blaelack bred.we put them over sim x lim cows an got some real nice heifers with some length about them.

 

[Grahamc94]

Most of my bulls have been blaelack bred.we put them over sim x lim cows an got some real nice heifers with some length about them.

Our youngest bull that’s blaelack sired is quite plain. We’re hoping he’ll fill out though as he’s not 2 until the spring

 

[JP1]

3rd February a friend of mine has a genuine reduction sale for his Father at J36 Crooklands

Young Blonde X cows bred from a closed dairy herd in calf to a very smart Bazadaise bull

Here's the link on FB :

https://www.facebook.com/william.richardson.90834/posts/10224609150989502

 

[JP1]

Bazadaise bull that those cows are in calf to:

 

[Henarar]

Dexter!

thats just poor mans 35

 

[Grahamc94]

Anyone know much about Aubrac’s? Seem to be on the increase over in Ireland. Are they any good or are they a flash in the pan?

 

[Grahamc94]

Bazadaise bull that those cows are in calf to:

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How do you find the Bazadaise to work with? We were told a long time ago there was a bad bloodline somewhere that bred bad tempered stock. That’s said most breeds do have a bad strain somewhere

 

[choochter]

How do you find the Bazadaise to work with? We were told a long time ago there was a bad bloodline somewhere that bred bad tempered stock. That’s said most breeds do have a bad strain somewhere

As you say, most breeds have some with poorer temperament, for whatever reason. The poor bloodline story maybe comes from a long dead bull called Polux, there shouldn't be any of him left in the UK herd.

Mine are all quiet to work with, and at calving, which is essential for me as I am a delicate flower of a wummin and cannot tolerate any nonsense.

 

[Grahamc94]

As you say, most breeds have some with poorer temperament, for whatever reason. The poor bloodline story maybe comes from a long dead bull called Polux, there shouldn't be any of him left in the UK herd.

Mine are all quiet to work with, and at calving, which is essential for me as I am a delicate flower of a wummin and cannot tolerate any nonsense.

I’m sure the ones I heard about were off an AI bull, so could’ve been from another country. After an incident that I mentioned earlier on we don’t keep anything that causes problems.

 

[choochter]

I’m sure the ones I heard about were off an AI bull, so could’ve been from another country. After an incident that I mentioned earlier on we don’t keep anything that causes problems.

yes, thats right, same bull but straws were not available through the Bazadaise Society
there's a good selection of French AI bulls on the Baz website and not one of them is associated with temperament issues in progeny
In fact one of the bulls is recommended for heifers and has very quiet calves and I can vouch for that. Imprevu.

 

[Weasel]

Got 40 due in six weeks to a lim bull
Out of shorthorn cows

Hope you've plenty powdered milk to top the calfs up as the cows won't have enough

 

[Weasel]

3rd February a friend of mine has a genuine reduction sale for his Father at J36 Crooklands

Young Blonde X cows bred from a closed dairy herd in calf to a very smart Bazadaise bull

Here's the link on FB :

https://www.facebook.com/william.richardson.90834/posts/10224609150989502

Wouldn't want them as cows

 

[JSmith]

Hope you've plenty powdered milk to top the calfs up as the cows won't have enough

They’re sim heifers x out of shorthorn cows!! No problems here regarding milk, 200 to choose from an don’t think I’ve culled more than two cows for lack of milk in the last ten years!! Are yours pedigree, how many have you got?

 

[Weasel]

They’re sim heifers x out of shorthorn cows!! No problems here regarding milk, 200 to choose from an don’t think I’ve culled more than two cows for lack of milk in the last ten years!! Are yours pedigree, how many have you got?

500 sim x to calf in the spring

 

[JSmith]

500 sim x to calf in the spring

That’ll keep you busy, what they crossed with, are they in or out calving

 

[mac]

Stabiliser stot 19 month old 730 kgs been on 100 day intensive ration did 2.2kgs a day killed at 405kgs R4l. I’ve bought a few of them to see how they do before I maybe try a bull. @Dave6170 i believe that one out of sim cows. I think there might be a bit of variation within the breed but I’ve just bought some more and we shall see how they go.
mac

 

[Weasel]

That’ll keep you busy, what they crossed with, are they in or out calving

Luing.
Half in sheds, half out side, strip graze kale

 

[Whitepeak]

Wouldn't want them as cows

Why not? We find them to be great cows