Advantages of global warming

[Devil's advocate]

Lets assume there is warming man made or otherwise.

Which is a bad thing for wildlife & some agriculture, flooding, drought etc

Are there advantages

Reliable maize even soya.

North of Scotland the new bread basket

Tropical crops in the SW??????

Tundra in the northern hemisphere thawing so suitable for spring wheat??

Climate change of course so maybe harder winters?????

 

[Bury the Trash]

How about don't assume anything ? as it could be that the volatility /unpredictability of the climate will be the worst thing...

 

[manhill]

Prefer the way it was a couple of decades ago.

 

[Kidds]

I think the unpredictability of the extremes is going to make things very difficult for everyone and there are going to be an awful lot of extreme weather. There already is and I don't see it improving.
We had three months with no rain and since then don't seem to have had three days without rain. Worst May frosts for 40 years have almost completely taken my apple crop.
Siberia experiencing never seen before high temperatures, Australia suffering its worst drought in anybody's memory and endless other extremes we rarely get to hear about. What percentage of Bangladesh is underwater right now?

 

[Devil's advocate]

I think the unpredictability of the extremes is going to make things very difficult for everyone and there are going to be an awful lot of extreme weather. There already is and I don't see it improving.
We had three months with no rain and since then don't seem to have had three days without rain. Worst May frosts for 40 years have almost completely taken my apple crop.
Siberia experiencing never seen before high temperatures, Australia suffering its worst drought in anybody's memory and endless other extremes we rarely get to hear about. What percentage of Bangladesh is underwater right now?

Totally agree & terrible for wild life.

But artic tundra could be a very good buy, if capable of ton/acre wheat in 50 years time.

 

[delilah]

I don't think Scotland would be the new bread basket, from the little science I understand of all this the gulf stream will shift making us colder not warmer.

 

[JP1]

Lets assume there is warming man made or otherwise.

Which is a bad thing for wildlife & some agriculture, flooding, drought etc

Are there advantages

Reliable maize even soya.

North of Scotland the new bread basket

Tropical crops in the SW??????

Tundra in the northern hemisphere thawing so suitable for spring wheat??

Climate change of course so maybe harder winters?????

I appreciate the thread is posted in jest to a certain extent

I can’t see any upside

Changes in temperature would take centuries for all the globe to adjust to without real pain and harm not 30 years

There will be wars over water just as a start

 

[Devil's advocate]

I appreciate the thread is posted in jest to a certain extent

I can’t see any upside

Changes in temperature would take centuries for all the globe to adjust to without real pain and harm not 30 years

There will be wars over water just as a start

Sorry no not in jest, I agree life is going to be hard & I often worry about my nephews & niece's future.

Also terrible for wildlife.

But I remain convinced crops will be grown where it was not possible before & of course dry land in Australlia, Mexico, South Africa & many more will go out of production. We need to manage water better too, not just tip it into the sea.

 

[Bogweevil]

Not so far wrong - studies have show gains for Scottish Agriculture, and more maize, vines, apricots, peaches etc in SE. However drought/water shortages in the SE likely and light land currently cultivable if irrigated will perhaps become forest and heavy clay that lies too wet for arable may become suited to winter cereals.. Grass won't like the long droughts so perhaps more lucerne and sainfoin. There will still be late frosts so tropical crops are unlikely and frost protection probably still needed for vineyards.

Soya tends to be limited by daylength and that won't change. Over wintered peas become more possible perhaps tho'.

The consensus seems to be that the gulf stream won't switch off so we won't have the climate of bitter Labrador which is on our latitude on the other side of the Atlantic.

Other regions will get worse - too hot for human life in some middle eastern countries in summer, Australia will dry up and blow away...

 

[deleted user 837354]

If the Gulf Stream shifts, the water around the UK will get cooler.

 

[dowcow]

It's quite easy to expect 2 degrees of warming and look at a map of the UK and see average temperatures a few hundred miles in each direction North and South of us in the North-West are around 2 degrees different... so we get the Southern climate, win! And Scotland gets ours, which is probably better than what they have now, and the south gets Mediterranean... but if only it was as easy as that, but it won't be so simple will it? we could all end up colder, or warmer, or end up with such regular strong storms to ruin most crops most years. Maybe we'll even take on a yearly drought followed by a monsoon season. I should certainly hope certain areas will see a better climate, the thing is predicting where they will be and buying a farm there while it is still an arse of a place where nobody wants to live

 

[teslacoils]

They say by 2050 that mid Lincolnshire will be as warm as northern Spain. This is a great thing.

 

[puppet]

The one sure thing is that nobody is sure of the outcomes.
Put the weather back 2 decades? Then spells where temp below freezing for days with frozen and burst pipes, 1995 worst snowfall since 1947, summer hosepipe bans in the 80s were a regular feature, combining wet barley end of October 1985, 4 weeks to make 'hay'. I would prefer a climate similar to a bit further south..
There is a trend up over the past decade but in the scale of things that is a blip.
What we do need to do is stop over-consuming the earth's resources but when anything under 3% annual growth in world economies is seen as a failure then I hold out little hope of change.

 

[Devil's advocate]

They say by 2050 that mid Lincolnshire will be as warm as northern Spain. This is a great thing.

May be not so great for the fens, without a sea wall, even with one.

 

[C.J]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=916380428404814

Dr Patrick Moore - a co founder of green peace has now rejected climate alarmism.

 

[betweenthelines]

Couple of things to bear in mind about the "climate change" debate.

Every time the phrase "since records began" is used, just remember that that really means "in the last hundred years or so" which in climatic terms is the blink of an eye.

Animals can move about and frequently do. So if one area becomes warmer/cooler for a short time, the wildlife just moves to adapt. Certain species of birds have been seen in mainland Britain for the first time in years (or have increased in numbers) recently.

 

[thesilentone]

Climate change is inevitable and constant, the difference is, we are speeding in up. As there is more of us, then the speed will get faster as we consume the resources.

 

[teslacoils]

May be not so great for the fens, without a sea wall, even with one.

My brain would say "wonder if a water park with Spanish heat would be more profitable than this crop?".

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

They say by 2050 that mid Lincolnshire will be as warm as northern Spain. This is a great thing.

They also predict Cambridge will become a seaside town around 2100

 

[7610 super q]

I dunno what to make of it. So far this year we've had 2 monsoons, and one drought. And it's still only July. I'm just glad I'm heading towards retirement. Every year there's a weather related problem that insures big yields go out the window. And all this just to receive 1970's prices.