Advice after ploughing

[Nickbrain120]

G'day Guys

This is my first post, I am a broadacre farmer in Australia. We have been doing some mouldboard ploughing during the summer time after some heavy rainfall. Main reason is to bury Chem resistant weeds which seems to be working really well.

What is the best took to go over the ploughed ground? We used a power harrow last year and it was nice, the local dealer is trying to get me to demo a lemken kompaktor are these a good machine?. It's critical we don't pull any seeds back up which we have buried.

Kind regards Nick

 

[Nickbrain120]

We mulch wheat stubble Infront of plough

 

[David.]

Hello Nick,
You have just turned everything I thought I knew about broadacre cropping in Aus upside down.
The system you are describing is now regarded as the worst of the worst of expensive ways to establish a crop over here.
Only a hobby farmer with more time, diesel and money than sense would even consider using a mouldboard plough nowadays in UK .

But seriously, I would run a roll or press over that ploughing of yours if it is a true representation, and drill straight into it, with as little disturbance as possible.

 

[davidroberts30]

i must be a hobby farmer....

 

[ollie989898]

If you are ploughing I presume you have no issues with moisture loss/drought?

The plough men of TFF will be along shortly, they will want to see all the stubble/trashed buried totally and so would I if we are talking about resistant grass weeds.

 

[Nickbrain120]

Hello Nick,
You have just turned everything I thought I knew about broadacre cropping in Aus upside down.
The system you are describing is now regarded as the worst of the worst of expensive ways to establish a crop over here.
Only a hobby farmer with more time, diesel and money than sense would even consider using a mouldboard plough nowadays in UK.

But seriously, I would run a roll or press over that ploughing of yours if it us a true representation, and drill straight into it, with as little disturbance as possible.

Hey mate thanks for the reply it's definitely frowned upon here however. The rye grass resistance is next level due to some poor management before I came home and took over the family farm. The paddock we trialled last year was 40ha and we only got 1.7t/ha of canola off it. The farm average for our 800ha was 3.8t/ha due....fast forward to the harvest just gone, this paddock was in winter wheat! It was the highest yeilding paddock on the farm at 9.2t/ha.

It's not a practice I will do often but hopefully just a once off tool to reset the paddocks seed bank.

What do you mean by press? Cheers

 

[steveR]

Hello Nick,
You have just turned everything I thought I knew about broadacre cropping in Aus upside down.
The system you are describing is now regarded as the worst of the worst of expensive ways to establish a crop over here.
Only a hobby farmer with more time, diesel and money than sense would even consider using a mouldboard plough nowadays in UK.

But seriously, I would run a roll or press over that ploughing of yours if it us a true representation, and drill straight into it, with as little disturbance as possible.

Which is why I still wonder at the loss of favour for the furrow press? Be perfect for the OP if this was a regular occurence

Brilliant tool in the correct conditions, ie not a wet pudding as the ground is turned over, and can leave the land on anything other than really stiff clay, ready to drill. On heavier soils, I reckoned it saved a pass with a cultivator, and prepped the land nicely. On light land, I had a tiny crumbler roller on teh press which left the seedbed prepped for a drill.

I used to plough and press here in early Feb after applying FYM, and then drill beet direct into the pressing in 3rd week March! Saved multiple passes and preserved moisture...

 

[David.]

Where in Aus are you Nick?
Sounds a pretty good solution if not been ploughed before in recent times, and no resistant seed to bring back up.
A press might be just a roll with a light cultivation element, or a couple of sets of rings, or a couple of flexi-coils etc.
That ploughing looks like most of mine does, all I would do to that is run a heavy ish Cambridge roll over it, and then drill straight in with a tineseeder.

 

[Nickbrain120]

Where in Aus are you Nick?
Sounds a pretty good solution if not been ploughed before in recent times, and no resistant seed to bring back up.
A press might be just a roll with a light cultivation element, or a couple if sets of rings, or a couple of coils etc.
That ploughing looks like most of mine does, all I would do to that is run a heavy ish Cambridge roll over it, and then drill straight in with a tineseeder.

Hey mate thanks for the reply? I am down in Southwest Victoria. The beauty is that the rye grass is such a soft seed that if it can't germinate it will rot away in 8-9 months. Hence 20 years of resistance build up is gone overnight essentially

 

[David.]

Sounds good, when you said broadacre, I jumped mentally straight to dry land.

 

[Exfarmer]

a good set of rolls is what you need from that picture

 

[Nickbrain120]

Sounds good, when you said broadacre, I jumped mentally straight to dry land.

We are 5000 acres dry land mate definitely no irrigation