Advice needed on troublesome tractor

[Cmoran]

As title suggests I’m looking for advice I bought an ex demo tractor in April 2017 with 300 hrs on it. By 2018 it had 3 radiators as they kept getting pinholes before they figured there was a hairline crack in injector liner which took 2 months for the tool to remove the liners to come from manufacturers and it also had 2 pto replacements in summer 2018 the pto went again while mowing!! December 2018 parked tractor Christmas Eve went to start it New Year’s Eve it wouldn’t fire resulting in an €11k replacement of everything to do with diesel as it was all corroded!!!from contaminated diesel apparently!! It’s funny how the 4 other tractors never gave bother. Lots of niggley bits up to September last year got so fed up it would be last tractor to leave the yard! Agitating in September engine starts knocking dropped it to mechanic and told him not to rush going near it as I don’t want it back long story short he opened her today looking like a €10k engine rebuilt everything brunt to bits. It never overheated since rad were fixed. I just want rid of it. I’ve been paying for it every month and I’m fed up getting no hearing from manufacturers or there finance company (own brand finance) looks like all the equity I should have in it is long gone. What options have I?? I don’t want to stop paying because it will effect getting finance in the future. It’s driving me nuts I f...ing hate the DD going out. Oh the finance will except a surrender but I’ll have to pay short fall after they sell!!!! TIA

 

[Hesston4860s]

Is this a main brand tractor ie JD NH MF or Fendt etc ?.

 

[Cmoran]

Yes main brand but in the etc section

 

[Nearly]

'Not fit for purpose' is the phrase to quote at them I believe.
Goggle it?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Care to enlighten us what brand it is? Id get her fixed and then get rid of it

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Which country are you in ?

UK or elsewhere ??

 

[Cmoran]

I’m in Ireland finance is with Bnp paribas which is Uk based. I’ve used the not fit for purpose phrase but no good. I suppose it’s no harm to say what make it is it’s a deutz 6150.4

 

[Barleycorn]

That'll be a Kubota then? Surely it had a least a 3 year warranty?

 

[Robt]

'Not fit for purpose' is the phrase to quote at them I believe.
Goggle it?

Sorry but that phrase means nothing. It gets used far too often. In a court it wouldn’t stand up!
send a recorded delivery letter to the dealer. Send a copy to the finance company and to the manufacture.State dates and put an end date for it to be sorted by.
remain calm and be willing to talk. Use Skype at present or Zoom to avoid face to face

 

[Cmoran]

Sorry but that phrase means nothing. It gets used far too often. In a court it wouldn’t stand up!
send a recorded delivery letter to the dealer. Send a copy to the finance company and to the manufacture.State dates and put an end date for it to be sorted by.
remain calm and be willing to talk. Use Skype at present or Zoom to avoid face to face

The dealer has the tractor stripped they are having issues all the time trying to get deutz to sort warranty it’s a nightmare

 

[Two Tone]

Not fit for purpose does work. I have a near neighbour that had issues with the last Manitou MLA (the one they took on from Redrock).
He served them with a Not Fit for Purpose writ and stopped paying the finance. Manitou replaced the entire machine which was just over a year old with a brand new one FOC.
The new Machine lasted just under a year before he did it again and Manitou provided him with a brand new conventional (non artic) loader FOC.
Not surprisingly, Manitou stopped selling that MLA loader.

I cannot see why the OP could not do the same with his tractor as it has been so unreliable.

 

[Wellytrack]

The dealer has the tractor stripped they are having issues all the time trying to get deutz to sort warranty it’s a nightmare

What an absolute $hitshow you have had. You have my sympathies.

Many a machine like that would have had ‘an accident’ long before that.

 

[Wellytrack]

Sorry but that phrase means nothing. It gets used far too often. In a court it wouldn’t stand up!
send a recorded delivery letter to the dealer. Send a copy to the finance company and to the manufacture.State dates and put an end date for it to be sorted by.
remain calm and be willing to talk. Use Skype at present or Zoom to avoid face to face

You wouldn’t wish a machine like than upon your worst enemy. Fit for purpose has to mean something, that tractor is not.

 

[Matthew Britton]

I am glad i thought better of putting myself in serious debt buying a new Deutz when my then dealer took the franchise on. On paper they look great, it’s only now that there are a few more about again that the horror stories about them are coming to light! Not quite the quality German engineering they should be.

 

[Cmoran]

I am glad i thought better of putting myself in serious debt buying a new Deutz when my then dealer took the franchise on. On paper they look great, it’s only now that there are a few more about again that the horror stories about them are coming to light! Not quite the quality German engineering they should be.

Definitely not quality engineering!! I reckon they should have used the steel to make sheep hurdles they would be more use!! The older deutz were bullet proof I trade in a 165.7 for it I’m sorry ever since!!

 

[daveydiesel1]

That'll be a Kubota then? Surely it had a least a 3 year warranty?

What do u mean thatl be a kubota? Sure he just said its a deutz

 

[Robt]

Not fit for purpose does work. I have a near neighbour that had issues with the last Manitou MLA (the one they took on from Redrock).
He served them with a Not Fit for Purpose writ and stopped paying the finance. Manitou replaced the entire machine which was just over a year old with a brand new one FOC.
The new Machine lasted just under a year before he did it again and Manitou provided him with a brand new conventional (non artic) loader FOC.
Not surprisingly, Manitou stopped selling that MLA loader.

I cannot see why the OP could not do the same with his tractor as it has been so unreliable.

Because the “not fit for purpose won’t work! “ maniyou helped your friend because the finance company got involved. If a tractor is a tractor and does tractor things for over 50 % of the time then it is fit for purpose! If the lift arms have never worked for a single hour and you can prove it then you may get away with not fit for purpose. Or a 6 ton forklift has never been able to life more than 3 tons ever then again you may be able to use that phrase

 

[ih1455xl]

Sounds like exactly the same problems as we had with our Deutz ending up with the Nfu and wright hassall solicitors who do quite a lot against sdf UK

 

[Barleycorn]

What do u mean thatl be a kubota? Sure he just said its a deutz

Just trying to be clever, (before he announced it was a Deutz), BNP Paribas do Kubota finance.

 

[lexion780tt]

If you look at it logically all your faults will stem from the injector sleeve

I would imagine coolant got into the fuel which caused you fuel system to fail

If it done 3 reads and was enough pressure in there to burst rad would have done head gasket and caused over heating

It must have been putting a lot of disel in to coolant?

Should have had a new engine if it was I warranty