Aggressive cow and calf

ESC

Member
Mixed Farmer
He has learned to be boss. When you say aggressive do you mean very lively as many bullocks his age will run towards you and can cause damage by what they regard as playing.
If it or the cow is actually aggressive and you can't walk in the field then that is as much a danger to others who don't realise. A cow may be excused a few days of protective behaviour but not 10 months.
Plenty farmers have found injuries hard to defend in court if a cow has already caused problems.
As above, get the bullock sold before it gets any bigger and find a quiet cow. There are thousands to choose from.
And find a friendly farmer neighbour to help you. Cows sold on their own are usually for a reason. Go to a herd dispersal sale instead
Yeah exactly like you said, trying to “play” with us, the mom isn’t bad alone you just can’t pet her but if you get tough with her you get your way, the bullock is very lively and he is the actual danger.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Yeah exactly like you said, trying to “play” with us, the mom isn’t bad alone you just can’t pet her but if you get tough with her you get your way, the bullock is very lively and he is the actual danger.

What you describe is pretty much normal behaviour for cattle. Maybe they’re not suitable for your “farming” style.

Can’t pet ✅
Need to be tough to get your way ✅
Very lively ✅
A danger ✅
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
With the greatest respect to the OP I'm not too sure you could be hard enough to 'boss' these animals. It's like having a dog that bites..... it takes a certain character to take these on and manage them. Partly because an aggressive dog will always be an aggressive dog even if you've manage to stop the behaviour for a while.

if you want to enjoy your field while you have those cattle you'll be needing a bit of pipe with you at all times and everyone with you will need to be alerted to the possible behaviour.

move them on and enjoy what you've got..... life is too short.
 

Agrivator

Member
What you describe is pretty much normal behaviour for cattle. Maybe they’re not suitable for your “farming” style.

Can’t pet ✅
Need to be tough to get your way ✅
Very lively ✅
A danger ✅
I reckon the OP should wear a high-viz jacket, a hard hat, and steel-toecap boots.

And we should all grow a concealed plot of cannabis, to make into hay or powder, to keep in reserve as a means of pacifying dangerous cattle. And if the worst comes to the worst............................
 

shumungus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hello everyone, I have bought a house in the country with a 2 acre field and small shed attached and my wife and I really like rhino's so we bought a mummy one and it had a baby not long after. The mummy one is lovely but a bit headstrong and likes to tip over cars and gets so excited when she sees us that she sometimes can't get stopped when galloping up to see us, sometimes it looks like she is charging at us but I know she loves us really. Junior has grown into a big boy over the past two years and likes nothing more than to have play 'piggy back rides' with his mother around the paddock. I think he would make a great rugby player as he likes to push against things till they fall down. We have had to rebuild the shed three times now! My problem is this, his horn is quite pointy and we had another 'accident' yesterday and I bumped into it (its not a big wound and the surgeon said last night after the surgery that they got all the dirt out) is there something I can get to put on his horn to make it less pointy? It doesn't need to be too big as I don't want it to annoy him and it has to be cheap as truth be told we have had to re mortgage the place to pay for the feed bills and the rebuilding of the shed. We really love our rhino's and wouldn't part with them for the world, must go now as the consultant is starting his ward round and the nurses still have to empty my catheter bag and change the dressing. TIA.
 

AftonShepherd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
Hello everyone, I have bought a house in the country with a 2 acre field and small shed attached and my wife and I really like rhino's so we bought a mummy one and it had a baby not long after. The mummy one is lovely but a bit headstrong and likes to tip over cars and gets so excited when she sees us that she sometimes can't get stopped when galloping up to see us, sometimes it looks like she is charging at us but I know she loves us really. Junior has grown into a big boy over the past two years and likes nothing more than to have play 'piggy back rides' with his mother around the paddock. I think he would make a great rugby player as he likes to push against things till they fall down. We have had to rebuild the shed three times now! My problem is this, his horn is quite pointy and we had another 'accident' yesterday and I bumped into it (its not a big wound and the surgeon said last night after the surgery that they got all the dirt out) is there something I can get to put on his horn to make it less pointy? It doesn't need to be too big as I don't want it to annoy him and it has to be cheap as truth be told we have had to re mortgage the place to pay for the feed bills and the rebuilding of the shed. We really love our rhino's and wouldn't part with them for the world, must go now as the consultant is starting his ward round and the nurses still have to empty my catheter bag and change the dressing. TIA.
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You might need more than one tube but worth a try if you can get close enough to him.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I reckon the OP should wear a high-viz jacket, a hard hat, and steel-toecap boots.

And we should all grow a concealed plot of cannabis, to make into hay or powder, to keep in reserve as a means of pacifying dangerous cattle. And if the worst comes to the worst............................

I reckon he should manage cattle in the way that cattle should be managed and get himself a rabbit, cat or hamster if he wants something to cuddle.
 

Bald n Grumpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Yeah exactly like you said, trying to “play” with us, the mom isn’t bad alone you just can’t pet her but if you get tough with her you get your way, the bullock is very lively and he is the actual danger.
We get lots of non farming friends ( townies) visit us and they love to see the stock, the most frequently asked question is ooooh is that bull nasty he's so big, my reply is usually no he's not nasty but if you let him rub against you like your cat or dog does then bones would break and your insides would come out like standing on a tube of toothpaste. But he wouldn't be being nasty just having a playful scratch
Sounds to me like you need a change of pet
 

Cowmansam

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire
There’s nothing wrong with cattle you can stroke and pet but you’ve to understand some don’t want it and never will and the ones that do need to understand what the boundaries are eg stand for a stroke no bunting running round and the like I’ve 350 head here there’s 30 you couldn’t lay a hand on 30 who actively come up for attention and the rest are indifferent to it you could make the animals you have understand how the relationship needs to work but if there not tame you won’t make them so it’s born into them in my opinion very noticeable certain cows here are tame and there mother’s daughters are too
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I’d sell what you have and go and buy off a farm a cow that’s good and well mannered then you can enjoy your stock and land life to short to be messing with a nutter

No, I'd say they should buy more than one - cattle are herd animals and shouldn't be kept in isolation. it's clear that neither the cow or calf are pet material, so they should both be moved on before they hurt someone.
 

nelly55

Member
Location
Yorkshire
sell the calf now ,if you are still wanting to keep the cow she may calm down once weaned.I take it she isn’t in calf again.But and here’s the But do YOU want to leave in a box because cows are dangerous ,a bull will knock you down and leave you,a cow will keep at you.Has the cow ever been friendly ,have you safe handling areas to separate the two of them.Sadly sometimes it is a difficult decision,I have just culled 2 cows they had too many chances and me close shaves.What do you think made her nasty or has she always been nasty if the latter only one answer.We have the most friendly easy going sucklers homebred but the odd one brought in is another story.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Hello everyone, I have bought a house in the country with a 2 acre field and small shed attached and my wife and I really like rhino's so we bought a mummy one and it had a baby not long after. The mummy one is lovely but a bit headstrong and likes to tip over cars and gets so excited when she sees us that she sometimes can't get stopped when galloping up to see us, sometimes it looks like she is charging at us but I know she loves us really. Junior has grown into a big boy over the past two years and likes nothing more than to have play 'piggy back rides' with his mother around the paddock. I think he would make a great rugby player as he likes to push against things till they fall down. We have had to rebuild the shed three times now! My problem is this, his horn is quite pointy and we had another 'accident' yesterday and I bumped into it (its not a big wound and the surgeon said last night after the surgery that they got all the dirt out) is there something I can get to put on his horn to make it less pointy? It doesn't need to be too big as I don't want it to annoy him and it has to be cheap as truth be told we have had to re mortgage the place to pay for the feed bills and the rebuilding of the shed. We really love our rhino's and wouldn't part with them for the world, must go now as the consultant is starting his ward round and the nurses still have to empty my catheter bag and change the dressing. TIA.
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so here’s my dilemma, we have a cow and her castrated 10 month old calf, we don’t separate them as we are strictly hobby farmers and don’t care about profit (although we still get a fair bit of milk) . Anyway, the cow has been aggressive from the start and even though she had calmed down a bit, she flared up a again this spring. The calf who started out as very nice, became a liability as he grew, trampling me once. He calmed down for a bit too but flared up enormously in the springtime. He starts jumping up and down and chasing you when you get near him. We can not walk around on our property anymore and the secluded grazing spot doesn’t offer nearly as much vegetation as the main place. Is there any way to improve their manner as we would never dream of letting them go? Thanks for all the support!
Kill them before they kill you .
 

Sir loin

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
We have a caravan site and one day a visitor was stroking the bulls head over a 5 bar gate, I immediately warned him of the dangers told him he is a lot stronger than you think never stroke a cow or a bulls head. It seemed to go over his head the warning as next day he was stroking the bulls head again. This time I was very cross with him and gave him a lecture on the dangers. You can guess where this is going cant you next day bull broke his arm I guess he must have reached under the top bar of the gate bull raised his head and snap.
 

AftonShepherd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
We have a caravan site and one day a visitor was stroking the bulls head over a 5 bar gate, I immediately warned him of the dangers told him he is a lot stronger than you think never stroke a cow or a bulls head. It seemed to go over his head the warning as next day he was stroking the bulls head again. This time I was very cross with him and gave him a lecture on the dangers. You can guess where this is going cant you next day bull broke his arm I guess he must have reached under the top bar of the gate bull raised his head and snap.
Absolutely. When you easily weigh over a tonne you don't need to mean any harm. Although I suspect the OP's bullock means harm.
 

Uggman

Member
Livestock Farmer
One question I'll like to ask the op is do you have a dog do you normally walk round the cow and bullock with it if you don't ever again even if the dog doesn't have a go at cow she can still get very upset thinking the dogs a wolf kind of thing going to harm her or her calf.
Also my grandad always said That a nasty cow is more dangerous the a nasty bull as a cow will look àt you while charging at you but a bull will keep its head down never check this myself.
 
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We have a caravan site and one day a visitor was stroking the bulls head over a 5 bar gate, I immediately warned him of the dangers told him he is a lot stronger than you think never stroke a cow or a bulls head. It seemed to go over his head the warning as next day he was stroking the bulls head again. This time I was very cross with him and gave him a lecture on the dangers. You can guess where this is going cant you next day bull broke his arm I guess he must have reached under the top bar of the gate bull raised his head and snap.

This sort of thing would keep me awake at night.
 

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