Agricultural Matters scares me so I'll ask it here...

delilah

Member
How does making a fake pie, with that long list of ingredients, reduce emissions?

Because they say that it does. If you say something often enough, it becomes accepted fact. As said earlier, UK ag really does need to get up to speed with how running a campaign works.

For the first time in recorded history, farmers have competition. It is no longer enough to smirk and say "don't criticise farmers with your mouth full."

Fight fire with fire. Whenever we advertize our beef/hogget, we use the strapline. 'Save the planet: Eat red meat". UK ag should be slapping that on its product. Instead, we have the constant apologizing from the NFU and AHDB.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
That's the thing with farmers, they don't have a clue about how campaigning works. Instead of constantly slagging off Animal Rebellion etc, folks on here should take a minute to think about why they are wiping the floor, PR wise, with livestock ag.
It's hard work if you go onto vegan/animal/environment sites to try and explain farming to these people. The second you so much as question their often bizarre beliefs you can literally feel them foaming at the mouth, rolling on the floor chewing the carpet, then they are vomiting torrents of abuse at you.
 
There is "meat".
If you've nothing constructive to add to a debate...why bot

Meat imo is beef, lamb, chicken, pork etc. If a vegan pie does not contain any of these ingredients then it is not a meat pie. What it contains is something that has been artificially made to look and perhaps taste like meat.
He needs to look up the definition of meat in the Cambridge dictionary ;)
 

Easedoff

Member
Livestock Farmer
Meat imo is beef, lamb, chicken, pork etc. If a vegan pie does not contain any of these ingredients then it is not a meat pie. What it contains is something that has been artificially made to look and perhaps taste like meat.
Well.
You stick to marketing your meat.
And perhaps others could make a good return flogging ingredients for "meat" to the veggies.

Pedantic idiot.
 

yin ewe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
Well.
You stick to marketing your meat.
And perhaps others could make a good return flogging ingredients for "meat" to the veggies.

Pedantic idiot.

To be honest they can call their products whatever they like as far as I'm concerned, but what I do object to is being told that their 'meat' is better for the environment than the meat I produce.
I've no problem with a farmer making money selling ingredients for vegan meat, but most of the ingredients wouldn't grow well here, so I'm stuck growing the more traditional types of meat.
 

Charlie Gill

Member
Location
Kent
Leading on then, tonight's question:

Do any of you lot consciously have meat free days? I'm not talking getting in late and throwing a tin of beans or poached eggs on some toast because of time constraints, are you making meat free changes to your diet on health criteria?
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Leading on then, tonight's question:

Do any of you lot consciously have meat free days? I'm not talking getting in late and throwing a tin of beans or poached eggs on some toast because of time constraints, are you making meat free changes to your diet on health criteria?
Yes, always have since we were married, although not health or environmental reasons, purely for variety.
 

yin ewe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
Leading on then, tonight's question:

Do any of you lot consciously have meat free days? I'm not talking getting in late and throwing a tin of beans or poached eggs on some toast because of time constraints, are you making meat free changes to your diet on health criteria?

Don't consciously have meat free days here, lunch would be meat free most days, dinner hardly ever.
 

Charlie Gill

Member
Location
Kent
I'm reading that in so many ways :ROFLMAO: .
He does like a mushroom recipe now and then.

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If you don’t want to eat meat then that is a personal choice, just eat vegetables, why make them look like something that you choose not to eat in the first place? I suppose it could be down to a lack of meat protein reducing brain power resulting in the warped thinking than many vegans have.

Because you can't make any money out of flogging a bag of chopped broccoli. Take veg, process them and put them into a pie or sausage and hey presto you can charge £2 a pack.
 

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