Agricultural Occupancy condition - holiday let?

Discussion in 'Rural Diversification' started by Formatted, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. Formatted

    Formatted Member

    Location:
    Wiltshire
    Is it ok to rent out a bungalow with an agricultural occupancy condition as a holiday let?
     
  2. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    technically no ,but has the condition been adhered to upto now or has it been in breach before
     
  3. Formatted

    Formatted Member

    Location:
    Wiltshire
    It has been in the past rented out as a holiday let
     
  4. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    if you want to remove the condition the breach has to be continuous for 10 years
     
  5. I think the 'official' answer is no, but maybe nobody will notice or complain?

    :confused:
     
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  6. Pasty

    Pasty Member

    Location:
    Devon
    It is not illegal to breach a planning condition. You would not be breaking the law. I you were to change the use for 10 years and didn't come under enforcement, you have a very good case for a certificate of lawfulness for change of use.
     
  7. skinnyhoskins

    skinnyhoskins Member

    Location:
    the narth
    jfdi
     
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  8. Pasty

    Pasty Member

    Location:
    Devon
    If you want to add real value to it, go for 6 month lets and then get the tie lifted after 10 years. Then you have a full occupancy house. Less short term income but doing a holiday let will end you up with a holiday let, not a house and it's value will still be far lower than a house with full occupancy rights. Also a holiday let may attract more attention? Depends on how nosy they neighbours are and where it is.

    Whatever you do, keep loads of proof of bookings / lettings/ adverts etc. from day 1 as you may need evidence when you go for a certificate of lawfulness down the line.
     
  9. Chasingmytail

    Chasingmytail Member

    Location:
    Newport, SE Wales
    As above - depends what your LA is like - if they havent the funds or cant be bothered to take any action then just do it.
     
  10. kill

    kill Member

    Location:
    South West
    Get yourself on the local parish council and you can get away with anything!!!! Or maybe that just works with my local one:rolleyes:
     
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  11. Still Farming

    Still Farming Member

    Location:
    Glamorgan Wales
    They got to "declare an interest " legally if anything involved in !!!
     
  12. Still Farming

    Still Farming Member

    Location:
    Glamorgan Wales
    YES maybe if "persons involved in Agriculture ,fishery or forestry " having a break ???
     
  13. Pasty

    Pasty Member

    Location:
    Devon
    That's bollokks to be honest. You get paid nothing, give up loads of your free time, have no power to do anything and are under never ending scrutiny from every cretin who is watching your every move.. Go try it and see how many of these famous brown envelopes you get. I suspect not many. I expect none. Most of us want to help but it doesn't stop a constant stream of strokers making out that we are in it for the money or some personal benefit. Nobody is above the law, least of all parish Councillors.
     
  14. kill

    kill Member

    Location:
    South West
    One rule for them but they can jump on the rest. More retrospective planning by our parish council members than the rest of the parish put together and that's only IF they are caught!!!
     
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  15. Pasty

    Pasty Member

    Location:
    Devon
    It's not illegal to breach planning regs and it's not illegal to submit a retrospective application if required. It is illegal to breach an enforcement order. The same thing applies to you.
     
  16. Still Farming

    Still Farming Member

    Location:
    Glamorgan Wales
    Just "talking shop" and no powers !
    LA don't even agree with them most of the time.
    Just mainly "busy bodies " poking into stuff that "don't concern them !
     
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  17. Pasty

    Pasty Member

    Location:
    Devon
    You could say that or you could say that a lot of rural people who have no idea how to get a message to their district / county cllr rely on these people who give their time for nothing. Be assured they are the first to shout when it all goes tits up. Then suddenly we are important. Anyway, I guess you have your mind set and maybe have had bad experiences so I'm sorry about that. I consider myself a useful and realistic cllr.
     
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  18. Still Farming

    Still Farming Member

    Location:
    Glamorgan Wales
    Been there done that .
    Is good and bad points but often "certain characters" rule the roast and "dictate " to rest !
     

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