AHDB- let’s let them know.

[Sid]

Every medicine bottle has by law to come with either a data sheet/ dosage details etc printed on the bottle, if they are not then the vet is breaking the law!

If you want to go into sheep then either go and work on a sheep farm/ take a college course or employ someone that knows about sheep, utter disgrace that they are using levy payers money to teach people that want to get into the industry.

Vet normally sticks the label over those instructions!

Take a college course...you are having a laugh aren't you? A years course when all the info is avaliable free from AHDB.
So a vet/nutritionist can goto a Ahdb meeting but a new entrant can't?
What a load of rubbish!

 

[Tim W]

Go tell them @gone up the hill ---
http://beefandlamb.ahdb.org.uk/event/levy-payer-open-meeting-somerset/ it's at Sedgemoor so no excuse ---if you don't like something it's no use ranting over the keyboard
I go to plenty of AHDB events and always tell them what i like /don't like (in a calm and rational manner) ---

Most of the levy payers i meet think they do a decent job so i guess we keep different company

 

[gone up the hill]

Go tell them @gone up the hill ---
http://beefandlamb.ahdb.org.uk/event/levy-payer-open-meeting-somerset/ it's at Sedgemoor so no excuse ---if you don't like something it's no use ranting over the keyboard
I go to plenty of AHDB events and always tell them what i like /don't like (in a calm and rational manner) ---

Most of the levy payers i meet think they do a decent job so i guess we keep different company

Already signed up for that meeting

Meeting 12 months ago at Exeter about 90% of levy payers were far from happy with the work the AHDB is doing, the AHDB made signals that they were listening/ making changes that levy payers want but nothing has changed in the last 12 months that show any signs of this.

They did say thou that the SW meeting was the best they had attended as they were told what levy payers actually thought and not what they ( the AHDB big wigs ) wanted to hear unlike other meetings around the country.

 

[gone up the hill]

Vet normally sticks the label over those instructions!

Take a college course...you are having a laugh aren't you? A years course when all the info is avaliable free from AHDB.
So a vet/nutritionist can goto a Ahdb meeting but a new entrant can't?
What a load of rubbish!

No im not, the AHDB have a limited budget and they don't have the funds to teach free loaders how to farm.

The dosage etc info should be on the vets label, if its not then again the vet is breaking the law.

If you really think that someone that cant read/ understand a medicine label bottle should be in charge of livestock then words fail me.....................................

Vet/ nutritionists etc should only be allowed to go to AHDB meetings if they pay to do so because if they are going free then given the advice they receive at the meetings to levy payers afterwards then the levy payers are paying twice, once via the levy and once from the charges they pay the vet/ nutritionists..

 

[gatepost]

Sounds a pretty simple job. Will you be applying? should be able to get relief help for the few days a year you'll have to go to meetings. Sacrifice a bit of your time for the good of British ag.

Two questions for you before you get the job.

What if all the levy payers cant agree on what they want?
What if no one agrees with your ideas once your in?
This forum proves every farmer has a different view on things, maybe its not as simple a job as you think.

It doesn't sound as though the most vociferous anti AHDB members have any specific ideas as to what AHDB should be doing, just that they certainly shouldn't be advising anyone to do what they don't want to.

 

[gone up the hill]

It doesn't sound as though the most vociferous anti AHDB members have any specific ideas as to what AHDB should be doing, just that they certainly shouldn't be advising anyone to do what they don't want to.

We have plenty of ideas and these have been told time and time again to the AHDB bigwigs but they refuse to listen.

Take advertising, for every £1 spent it generates £8 in sales ( this was for UK lamb ) yet the AHDB say this is a very poor return and they shouldn't be doing it.

Tell me, how many inputs on your farm return £8 for every £1 spent @gatepost?? very few if any I would guess...

 

[Sid]

The dosage etc info should be on the vets label, if its not then again the vet is breaking the law.

Many vets labels say refer to the packaging instructions.

If you really think that someone that cant read/ understand a medicine label bottle should be in charge of livestock then words fail me..

Because some people need clearer instructions. On medicines machinery using a washing machine. But of course you use a new needle and syringe for every administration of medicines. Single use they are called.

Vet/ nutritionists etc should only be allowed to go to AHDB meetings if they pay to do so because if they are going free then given the advice they receive at the meetings to levy payers afterwards then the levy payers are paying twice, once via the levy and once from the charges they pay the vet/ nutritionists..

Some of the AHDB information is aimed at vets etc to benefit levy payers. So my vet shouldn't have done the Mastitis control plan training that helped me nail down issues i had with SCC. Knowledge transfer is key.

 

[Sid]

Tell me, how many inputs on your farm return £8 for every £1 spent @gatepost?? very few if any I would guess...

Lime?

 

[Henarar]

Go tell them @gone up the hill ---
http://beefandlamb.ahdb.org.uk/event/levy-payer-open-meeting-somerset/ it's at Sedgemoor so no excuse ---if you don't like something it's no use ranting over the keyboard
I go to plenty of AHDB events and always tell them what i like /don't like (in a calm and rational manner) ---

Most of the levy payers i meet think they do a decent job so i guess we keep different company

are you going ?

 

[bovine]

Some of the AHDB information is aimed at vets etc to benefit levy payers. So my vet shouldn't have done the Mastitis control plan training that helped me nail down issues i had with SCC.

You know the vets have to pay to do the vet courses? Costs about £500 in course fees to train, and as much again for travel, accommodation and cover. Then an ongoing cost for £500/year to keep delivering the plan.

We don't pay to go to producer meetings, but generally we go to the ones in our area attended by some of our clients. Both parties get more out of the meeting and is much more likely to make improvements at farm level when you involve the whole team, including the vet. I go to support clients, not for the levy funded coffee and pork pie.

In general terms the quality of the output from the AHDB is good. Most people I speak to are happy and I use the resources all the time with clients. It's amazing how many simple things good farmers can manage to get wrong. The beauty of the AHDB materials is they are pretty free from bias, whereas everything else we have is produced by someone trying to sell something (like feed, medicines, vaccines etc).

I really don't see the AHDB role as a generic advertising agency. Getting good information to the industry, pushing the boundaries through research and then put that into practice. If everyone was doing everything by the book then I'd start listening to some of the arguments.

 

[Sid]

Perhaps GUTH likes to go on slow and have a look round

If he has time to do that then he has time to get his application in to transform from a keyboard warrior to a AHDB board member and make change.

 

[Henarar]

If he has time to do that then he has time to get his application in to transform from a keyboard warrior to a AHDB board member and make change.

If you don't bother to drive far on the roads but have the time to spend on here accuing folk then you could apply to

 

[Sid]

If you don't bother to drive far on the roads but have the time to spend on here accuing folk then you could apply to

If i did every role i have been asked to do i could give up farming and spend all my time in meetings.
No thanks the 3 I do is enough.

 

[Derky]

If i had 36 days spare i would go on it to help reshape it but my specialist remit would be after it been cut. The storage, testing etc. Especially high erucic. I always though the AHDB boards were non paying.

 

[Rossymons]

Love it - thread on AHDB turns into an argument on Road Laws

 

[The Ruminant]

Love it - thread on AHDB turns into an argument on Road Laws

And, tediously, it’s the same few contributors as always.

 

[czechmate]

AHDB isn't a business thou..

They really need to start doing what levy payers want and not what the big wigs of the AHDB think they should be doing just to try and justify their jobs.

For example, no way in hell you can defend them spending tens of thousands of levy payers money on telling levy payers how to use electric fences/ how to read a medicine bottle label or even worse show us pictures of fat and store cattle and how to tell each one apart.

FFS utter disgrace that they are wasting our money on gimmicks like this and it HAS to STOP.

Any link to this page?

 

[Sid]

Take Fri steers, most of them are out of spec but that is down to the raw material that dairy farmers provide, nothing that a finisher can do to change this.

But as the Fri steer , suckled calf, store lamb , weaner provider isn't a levy payer they should have no access to the market information as you stated as they will profit from it selling to levy payers via better stock.
So all AHDB web pages should be only for levy payers password protected.

But then some levy payer contribute more than others to the pot are you going to restrict their access as well?

Lets have a top 5 high level things you want AHDB to focus on that is WITHIN their remit.

 

[llamedos]

Love it - thread on AHDB turns into an argument on Road Laws

And, tediously, it’s the same few contributors as always.

Lots of crap deleted, and thread brought back on topic as best it can be,

 

[Tim W]

are you going ?

No ---other things going on