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Ain't all bad in Russia.
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<blockquote data-quote="Danllan" data-source="post: 7959448" data-attributes="member: 8735"><p>Well, I've lived in two dictatorships, visited many others and have friends who have come here from some of them. Of course there are choices in all of these places, but what can be chosen, whether it's a foodstuff, a shoe or what to say - and even think! - is decided upon by the state.</p><p></p><p>Lack of crime, if one sets aside intimidation, imprisonment and murder by the state, may well be a positive thing, but it and the other so called benefits of these places simply aren't worth what must be given up or never experienced to live in them.</p><p></p><p>If I think of the Iranians, Russians, North Korean, Chinese etc. etc. who I have met, having managed to escape their countries of origin, I'm minded that not a single one wants to go back there now. Many, perhaps all, miss their 'country', meaning the land, the customs, foods, family and friends*, but none would change their place here for a return.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>*That is one of the most insidious things about these regimes, it can be almost impossible to know who really <u>is</u> a friend. I have spoken with former East Germans who had no idea that lifelong 'friends' were informing on them, until after the Stasi files came out (many people have never opted to see their file, preferring ignorance to finding out unpleasant things); not my own experience, but I have been told of marriages there that were, initially anyway, made under false pretences. Horrible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danllan, post: 7959448, member: 8735"] Well, I've lived in two dictatorships, visited many others and have friends who have come here from some of them. Of course there are choices in all of these places, but what can be chosen, whether it's a foodstuff, a shoe or what to say - and even think! - is decided upon by the state. Lack of crime, if one sets aside intimidation, imprisonment and murder by the state, may well be a positive thing, but it and the other so called benefits of these places simply aren't worth what must be given up or never experienced to live in them. If I think of the Iranians, Russians, North Korean, Chinese etc. etc. who I have met, having managed to escape their countries of origin, I'm minded that not a single one wants to go back there now. Many, perhaps all, miss their 'country', meaning the land, the customs, foods, family and friends*, but none would change their place here for a return. *That is one of the most insidious things about these regimes, it can be almost impossible to know who really [U]is[/U] a friend. I have spoken with former East Germans who had no idea that lifelong 'friends' were informing on them, until after the Stasi files came out (many people have never opted to see their file, preferring ignorance to finding out unpleasant things); not my own experience, but I have been told of marriages there that were, initially anyway, made under false pretences. Horrible. [/QUOTE]
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