I'm sorry but see how so many of you detectorists words your posts and how you offer the farmer a 50/50 split and give the sob story or the we follow the country code line. Try offering him money for the day, or if he prefers a good strong drink and some manual labour done in return to use some land and tell him he picks what the percentage of a share will be on a significant find. Its his land it's his fields it's technically his property and anything under them fields. I'm a detectorist myself and gave up on asking permissions thanks to idiots and how they approach farmers or how they leave their land after making promises to them to keep it clean. I get ignored when asking or a straight up no and this is for a club that pays £20pp on the day to the farmer and some offers work done for free as we have from electricians to plumbers in our club. Don't get me started about the night hawks either and how they just don't care at all about the farming community or the detectorists community