All things Dairy

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What are those extra criteria on your results ? Apologies for my ignorance.
nothing that we take any notice of :ROFLMAO: .I assume you mean the Saturated Fatty Acids and C16. All our results are paid for by the dairy and we are never given any guidance or feedback on those. Milk all for cheese making. I think some on liquid contracts might have these monitored for the retailers as a health thing (anybody care to comment??) but they just appeared one day with no explanation.
 
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LTH

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Livestock Farmer
Hold 4kilo I just weighed out, that’s what a new calved cow or one giving plenty of milk gets
 

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som farmer

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somerset
Er... some of us do, because we don't want 12,000 litre cows because we know we can't manage them effectively on our system where we can't get good constituents and high yields. We never select for yield in our pedigree Holsteins, our criteria are constituents, fertility, SCC, stature (low) plus a general look at PLI (as in 'why is that PLI so high or low) and an inbreeding limit. That doesn't mean bulls are negative for milk but sometimes they are. Very happy with the constituents at present!View attachment 948656
perhaps better put as, after 50 years of using top AI bulls, the cows that have been bred, are not working at their full potential. Or, could it be the breeders have bred the wrong type of bull, for a large proportion of cows they have been used on. The basic point, bulls have continued to improve, faster than the cows react, 50 years in breeding, is a long time, have the cows, in those 50 yrs, improved to the same point, the answer is no.
 
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East Mids
perhaps better put as, after 50 years of using top AI bulls, the cows that have been bred, are not working at their full potential. Or, could it be the breeders have bred the wrong type of bull, for a large proportion of cows they have been used on. The basic point, bulls have continued to improve, faster than the cows react, 50 years in breeding, is a long time, have the cows, in those 50 yrs, improved to the same point, the answer is no.
We were tearing our hair out 25 years ago trying to find good constituent Holstein/HF bulls, fortunately the focus changed.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
We were tearing our hair out 25 years ago trying to find good constituent Holstein/HF bulls, fortunately the focus changed.
yes, because the uk worked to white water, those in Europe, and elsewhere, were paid on constituents. I don't think the w/water ethos, did us any favours at all, but it was amazing how quickly breeders altered to them. Which is why i think the hol, will still be the 'dominant' breed, they have a vast multiple countries gene pool to draw from, far beyond many other breeds, and breeders open to change, when required.
 

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