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Dead Rabbits

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Location
'Merica
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Our organic maize looking ok to farmer who not grown it befor🤣🤣 going into cow diet along side crimp barley, Red clover bales, what cake saving can I expect?
No savings from a protein perspective, which is the largest cost to a dairy. Would not know your inclusion rate but if you over do it (too much energy not enough protein) you end up with fat cows with little milk.
 

DairyGrazing

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North West
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Filtration system for track run off to preemptively keep the power that be happy.

It only collects track run off and nothing else. Its interesting to see what has already dropped out in the settling ponds.
 

In the pit

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembrokeshire
In what way? They are there as I’ve got grids for the last part of the cow platform which allows the cow sh1t to go straight through onto the floor
On 99% of setups rump rail is suspended from roof and is only fixed to the floor at the very front and the very back
Looks very dangerous to milk in with a square bar dropping down between every cow
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Should be treated as a annual to get the most from it, we killed chicory with in 12 months from just grazing 🙈
our chicory is going mental, 1st year grazing it, but round 5, getting stronger, is tending to bolt now, but cows nibble the leaf's off. We have chucked a bit of seed, in with fert, that's all coming on, as well.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
No savings from a protein perspective, which is the largest cost to a dairy. Would not know your inclusion rate but if you over do it (too much energy not enough protein) you end up with fat cows with little milk.
we go up to an absolute max of 200gms/cow of urea, and make sure it's well mixed in tmr, happier with 150gm. When l went on my own, used to feed 100 gms, sprinkled on top of feed, with a 'pepper pot'.
It is a very cost effective source of protien, esp when compared with soya ! And it works well with maize, we are growing red clover leys, will be interesting to see what the protien level of them, and how they will balance v maize.
 

Dead Rabbits

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Location
'Merica
On 99% of setups rump rail is suspended from roof and is only fixed to the floor at the very front and the very back
Looks very dangerous to milk in with a square bar dropping down between every cow
Not only can the cow kick you, she can also smash your hand into the post. The barn I grew up in was like that. Could only milk from the side
 

farmeronecow

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Location
Dorset
On 99% of setups rump rail is suspended from roof and is only fixed to the floor at the very front and the very back
Looks very dangerous to milk in with a square bar dropping down between every cow
I’m with you. It’s only every other cow and if you milk between the back legs (which I do), it doesn’t really come into play. We milked through this parlour for 20 years previous to moth balling it and never had any injuries. I do have the bits to suspend the rail from another parlour I removed but ran out of time, I doubt it will ever get done now I’m milking
 

Dead Rabbits

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Location
'Merica
we go up to an absolute max of 200gms/cow of urea, and make sure it's well mixed in tmr, happier with 150gm. When l went on my own, used to feed 100 gms, sprinkled on top of feed, with a 'pepper pot'.
It is a very cost effective source of protien, esp when compared with soya ! And it works well with maize, we are growing red clover leys, will be interesting to see what the protien level of them, and how they will balance v maize.
I was referring to the organic guy, he can’t use urea. I wouldn’t be brave enough to sprinkle that stuff on, it makes me nervous enough feeding it through a wagon at 100 grams which we slowly work up to.

Soybean meal here is at £340/ton. Don’t even want to know what organic is. Non gmo soybean meal is usually 1/3 higher.
 

DairyGrazing

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North West
Who designed this? To assess a new concrete yard on csf I've said I would do the same as you.....

I did the original then my father and digger driver did their own thing. Jokes on him he paid for my MEng degree only to ignore my advice.

Basic idea.
Settlement lane to get the solids to drop out
Shallow pea bed with reeds
Holding pond
Long shallow pond with bigger stone covered in soil that planted with bull rushes.

I can give some advice about dimensions if you want over the phone.
 
Anyone have the calculations to work out how much silage I will have in a clamp. Want to order some sunshine in a bottle, but need to know how much. Have tried a few online silage clamp calculators but are getting wildly different numbers.
The clamp is 22m long, 10m wide and 2m high. And go with approx 30% dry matter, if that is ok for a late August 2nd cut ?
 

Dead Rabbits

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Location
'Merica
Anyone have the calculations to work out how much silage I will have in a clamp. Want to order some sunshine in a bottle, but need to know how much. Have tried a few online silage clamp calculators but are getting wildly different numbers.
The clamp is 22m long, 10m wide and 2m high. And go with approx 30% dry matter, if that is ok for a late August 2nd cut ?
Packing density is the hardest to get right I usually assume light rather than dense. Dry matter is easy to get with a scale and dryer
 

Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

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Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

Written by Lisa Applin

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In July, we opened the applications window for farmers to join our Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot.

The Sustainable Farming Incentive is 1 of the 3 new environmental land management schemes. It sits alongside the future Local Nature Recovery and Landscape Recovery schemes.

Through the Sustainable Farming Incentive, farmers will be paid for environmentally sustainable actions – ones that are simple to do and do not require previous agri-environment scheme experience.

We are piloting the scheme to...
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