All things Dairy

[lazy farmer]

Why not?

Being blunt?

cow killers. Mad calves and not suitable for block calving

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Being blunt?

cow killers. Mad calves and not suitable for block calving

We haven’t found that here but each to there own.

 

[In the pit]

Being blunt?

cow killers. Mad calves and not suitable for block calving

Similar with limo but worst was long gestation length

 

[lazy farmer]

We haven’t found that here but each to there own.

My biggest concern would be gestation length.

 

[Homesy]

We haven’t found that here but each to there own.

Me neither

 

[In the pit]

How much does that lot cost ?

Probably cost as much to run as buy

 

[Homesy]

My biggest concern would be gestation length.

Then start serving a week earlier ???

 

[In the pit]

Then start serving a week earlier ???

We would be using them at week 4/5 in a 10 week block
How do you manage to serve a week earlier???

 

[lazy farmer]

We would be using them at week 4/5 in a 10 week block
How do you manage to serve a week earlier???

This

even with Angus we have a day or two gap between dairy and the beef calves.

 

[lazy farmer]

Then start serving a week earlier ???

Really your meaning a week longer. Which is a big fat NO if you dry off properly.

 

[Homesy]

We would be using them at week 4/5 in a 10 week block
How do you manage to serve a week earlier???

The first week of service all I use is Limo then onto sexed, blue and angus. I still use Limo on the stronger second calvers as I find blue causes more problems. Angus calves at 4-5 weeks av. £100 less than the Limos and blues.

 

[In the pit]

The ai straws we use have a very short gestation so you add that to an extra week of limo and you can have 17/20 days break

 

[In the pit]

The first week of service all I use is Limo then onto sexed, blue and angus. I still use Limo on the stronger second calvers as I find blue causes more problems. Angus calves at 4-5 weeks av. £100 less than the Limos and blues.

Where’s your milking cow semen

 

[In the pit]

Dairy thread not beef

 

[Homesy]

Really your meaning a week longer. Which is a big fat NO if you dry off properly.

No you just serve for a week extra so more chances to get them in calf

 

[Homesy]

Where’s your milking cow semen

The sexed !!!!

 

[lazy farmer]

No you just serve for a week extra so more chances to get them in calf

No I would loose either cows or seven days milk. When you have a set lactation length every day matters.

 

[Homesy]

No I would loose either cows or seven days milk. When you have a set lactation length every day matters.

No you wouldn’t. You just start serving a week earlier and serve to Limo for the first week.

 

[som farmer]

used limo semen back in the 70's, had massive calves, and hassle, with cows going well over time, in the end we would jab them 1 week before due date, might have lost a calf, but we didn't lose any more cows.
Bought a lim hfr, as a suckler, who most definitely had several screws missing, lost her for 6/8 weeks, knew roughly where she was, she had returned to wild status, fully, cunning as hell, in the end we shot her, .347, 400 m, over the river, and through a gap in 2 hedges, a professional stalker did it, he said he had 1 chance, before she ran. The worst thing, as we hung her up, for the freezer, she had been living on oil seed rape, tainted the meat, we had to curry the lot, curried steak, isn't anywhere near 'proper' steak.
The 2 together, finished limo's on this farm, anything since, has come out of bought in cows.

 

[som farmer]

thought yak semen was a fad to bring back cows into the block, 8 month gestation period.
went very quiet, so presumably a failure.
NZ were developing a short gestation hfrd, haven't heard much about that either, is that successful, or not ?