All things Dairy

[In the pit]

But what do your 30tests tell you about your status.

Very little if youre milking 150

 

[organicguy]

Very little if youre milking 150

If done enough times will most likely tell you if you have it, but does nothing to control it.

Vet once told me it will be easier to eradicate Tb than Johnes!

 

[frederick]

Very little if youre milking 150

Done regularly and randomly it is likely to give a good idea of the level of Jones in a herd but it's doing nothing to control it.

 

[In the pit]

We milk record 4 times a year for johnes , can’t do any more because tb testing every few months
Cows that show any signs on the milk test have a red flag tag put in both ears so easily identified

 

[roscoe erf]

Arla announces tough standards for organic dairy farmers - Farmers Weekly

Arla is asking all its organic farmers to increase biodiversity and convert to 100% renewable energy. The co-op has issued a new set of organic standards,

www.fwi.co.uk

 

[pappuller]

We milk record 4 times a year for johnes , can’t do any more because tb testing every few months
Cows that show any signs on the milk test have a red flag tag put in both ears so easily identified

One of our vets says that some recent research has pointed to it not being advised to take johnes samples within 100 days of a tb test

 

[som farmer]

But what do your 30tests tell you about your status.

bugger all.
Watch some of the dispersals, J1, J2, J3 and 4, seem to start low, then shoot up, my theory on that, is some farmers think they can get a bargain, and forget the sitting time bomb, they have just introduced into their herds. In some cases, they sell extremely well !

 

[som farmer]

Arla announces tough standards for organic dairy farmers - Farmers Weekly

Arla is asking all its organic farmers to increase biodiversity and convert to 100% renewable energy. The co-op has issued a new set of organic standards,

www.fwi.co.uk

fine, if they are prepared to pay more, for the milk.

 

[frederick]

bugger all.
Watch some of the dispersals, J1, J2, J3 and 4, seem to start low, then shoot up, my theory on that, is some farmers think they can get a bargain, and forget the sitting time bomb, they have just introduced into their herds. In some cases, they sell extremely well !

It has to tell you something.
If they all keep coming back low your risk is low.
If you have 2 or 3 high you have a 6-9% incidence and should be concerned and thinking about control.
If you have more than 3 a test high you have a more serious issue.

 

[Martyn]

Arla announces tough standards for organic dairy farmers - Farmers Weekly

Arla is asking all its organic farmers to increase biodiversity and convert to 100% renewable energy. The co-op has issued a new set of organic standards,

www.fwi.co.uk

Any Arla organics on here?
@Sid @kill won't be long and this be along side PWAB!

 

[In the pit]

One of our vets says that some recent research has pointed to it not being advised to take johnes samples within 100 days of a tb test

That’s why we do our milk recording the day before tb test so we keep the gap as long as we can

 

[In the pit]

bugger all.
Watch some of the dispersals, J1, J2, J3 and 4, seem to start low, then shoot up, my theory on that, is some farmers think they can get a bargain, and forget the sitting time bomb, they have just introduced into their herds. In some cases, they sell extremely well !

And you are also feeding whole milk to calves which is a definite no no

 

[Kiss]

One of our vets says that some recent research has pointed to it not being advised to take johnes samples within 100 days of a tb test

Iv always being taught/believes this but recently our vet was suggesting it was a good idea as it’d flag the positives up sooner I’m not brave enough to try it mind

 

[som farmer]

And you are also feeding whole milk to calves which is a definite no no

anything johnes, does not get kept. We acidify and store colostrum, and it is claimed, the acidity will kill johnes, if left for a minimum of 3 days. We have done this for several years now, calves do extremely well, on what is essentially a waste product.
As a student, mid 70's, on my practical year, the farm block calved then, and all colostrum stored in churns, 45 gallon barrels, nothing added, kept for weeks, a good stir, 50/50 hot water, you definitely did not want to have a heavy night, it looked, and smelt vile, calves loved it.

 

[In the pit]

anything johnes, does not get kept. We acidify and store colostrum, and it is claimed, the acidity will kill johnes, if left for a minimum of 3 days. We have done this for several years now, calves do extremely well, on what is essentially a waste product.
As a student, mid 70's, on my practical year, the farm block calved then, and all colostrum stored in churns, 45 gallon barrels, nothing added, kept for weeks, a good stir, 50/50 hot water, you definitely did not want to have a heavy night, it looked, and smelt vile, calves loved it.

Without whole herd testing how do you know who has or hasn’t got johne
Acidifying milk may or may not kill johnes , as it all depends on ph
Half a ph up or down and bugs aren’t killed

 

[som farmer]

Without whole herd testing how do you know who has or hasn’t got johne
Acidifying milk may or may not kill johnes , as it all depends on ph
Half a ph up or down and bugs aren’t killed

so it might, but we save a lot of money not buying milk powder, and utilising colostrum, that would otherwise discarded.

 

[In the pit]

Our colostrum doesn’t get wasted it goes into beef and fresian bull calves
All replacements get milk powder as this is the safest method of feeding them

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Our colostrum doesn’t get wasted it goes into beef and fresian bull calves
All replacements get milk powder as this is the safest method of feeding them

Same here, we might waste a tiny bit at peak calving we we get our beef calves upto 8 litres by 10 days old. They soon guzzle it up.

 

[sidjon]

And you are also feeding whole milk to calves which is a definite no no

Muck in mouth in Newborns probably easiest way of spreading around herd, from mother's or other calves born from shedding cows.

 

[vantage]

Arla announces tough standards for organic dairy farmers - Farmers Weekly

Arla is asking all its organic farmers to increase biodiversity and convert to 100% renewable energy. The co-op has issued a new set of organic standards,

www.fwi.co.uk

I can see how you can get renewable electric, but diesel is another issue, especially if employed contractors are used.