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Are you going to come and do the extra weeks observation for me ?No you wouldn’t. You just start serving a week earlier and serve to Limo for the first week.
Are you going to come and do the extra weeks observation for me ?No you wouldn’t. You just start serving a week earlier and serve to Limo for the first week.
Dairy thread not beef
thought yak semen was a fad to bring back cows into the block, 8 month gestation period.
went very quiet, so presumably a failure.
NZ were developing a short gestation hfrd, haven't heard much about that either, is that successful, or not ?
SG Herefords are available here as Shimpton Hill, but calves are poor quality and not that much shorter, calves in NZ would be going as Bobby's, don't think many people still use them here now.thought yak semen was a fad to bring back cows into the block, 8 month gestation period.
went very quiet, so presumably a failure.
NZ were developing a short gestation hfrd, haven't heard much about that either, is that successful, or not ?
Already have the tractor, so just the forage box extra. Was more expensive than I thought it would be but hopefully making better forage will pay for itself easilyHow much does that lot cost ?
Did all the autumn calvers and heifers last Thursday at the TB read, one maiden heifer scanned twins.Twin jersey heifers out of a heifer (4th set)
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Downer mastitis cow finally up this morning
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dry cows chilling for the long weekend
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Shimpton or Shrimpton?SG Herefords are available here as Shimpton Hill, but calves are poor quality and not that much shorter, calves in NZ would be going as Bobby's, don't think many people still use them here now.
I’ve had the same thought, but would still need a contractor to pull it!Already have the tractor, so just the forage box extra. Was more expensive than I thought it would be but hopefully making better forage will pay for itself easily
Ah fat fingers , Shrimpton HillDid all the autumn calvers and heifers last Thursday at the TB read, one maiden heifer scanned twins.
Shimpton or Shrimpton?
Ah, the clue WAS in the name!Ah fat fingers , Shrimpton Hill
Not manySo you don’t serve any of your cows to beef?
Great for carrying silage round yard or handling maize as you drop nothing, but hard to get a full bucket with grass as they take a lot more to push in to face. We only have a 90 hp telehandler may be different with a bigger machine.Anyone on here using a shear bucket? Shear grab is needing replacing and was wondering what’s peoples opinions on them
Chuck the limo in the bin all he will do is cost you 10 days the following yearI used limo because that's what I've been used to using (previous 5 years of work I've only ever seen limo or Hereford used). Regarding calving problems, Friesians tend to be fairly easy calving, you'll always get the odd one but I am yet to calve a single one of my cows this year - heifers I do tend to find are a bit more difficult but I think that's the same for most breeds?
Last year the only ones I had problems with were my heifers that had Hereford bulls, the ones that had limos calved unassisted. Personally (and no offense meant to anyone) I do not like herefords, I think the heads on them are too big (have spoken to a few others who have said the same), the good ones calve as easy as an angus and have the value of a limo, the bad ones calve worse than limos and have the value of an angus, therefore I would rather use angus or limo.
When I served my cows last year, I didn't think about gestation length, I was more concerned about getting them in-calf and the extra value of a limo vs angus. This was a mistake but you live and learn.
This year, one of my main aims is to tighten my block up to 70 days total calving. I will be using Friesian semen for the first 45 days on cows that I would like a Friesian calf from, I will be using Limo semen for the first 45 days on anything that I would not like a Friesian calf from and then for the last 25 days I will be using the shortest gestation bull available, whether that is angus, hereford or some yak I don't care as long as they get In-calf
Also if using sexed you shouldn't need friesian for more than 21 days.I used limo because that's what I've been used to using (previous 5 years of work I've only ever seen limo or Hereford used). Regarding calving problems, Friesians tend to be fairly easy calving, you'll always get the odd one but I am yet to calve a single one of my cows this year - heifers I do tend to find are a bit more difficult but I think that's the same for most breeds?
Last year the only ones I had problems with were my heifers that had Hereford bulls, the ones that had limos calved unassisted. Personally (and no offense meant to anyone) I do not like herefords, I think the heads on them are too big (have spoken to a few others who have said the same), the good ones calve as easy as an angus and have the value of a limo, the bad ones calve worse than limos and have the value of an angus, therefore I would rather use angus or limo.
When I served my cows last year, I didn't think about gestation length, I was more concerned about getting them in-calf and the extra value of a limo vs angus. This was a mistake but you live and learn.
This year, one of my main aims is to tighten my block up to 70 days total calving. I will be using Friesian semen for the first 45 days on cows that I would like a Friesian calf from, I will be using Limo semen for the first 45 days on anything that I would not like a Friesian calf from and then for the last 25 days I will be using the shortest gestation bull available, whether that is angus, hereford or some yak I don't care as long as they get In-calf
I'm trying to build numbers so need more heifer calves than I would if I was up to number, hence 2 servings of Friesian instead of oneAlso if using sexed you shouldn't need friesian for more than 21 days.
How do you mean? Sorry, brain isn't functioning today!70 days is a big ask in one go. If you got between 20 and 30 you'd be doing very well
How do you mean? Sorry, brain isn't functioning today!
Ahh I see, current spring block is February-July, next year should be february-march. If they aren't in-calf then they will move to the autumn block which will be august-september (cutting out october next year)If you're looking to cut it by that many days tells me you're block is very spread out and it takes a lot of days to finish calving. By cutting it by that many days in one go there will be a big number of cows that won't have a chance of being bred because of the date change. You've cut more 3 services off the breeding window.
Now if that 70 days is being spread about 2 blocks and you're prepared for a higher empty rate then that's different.