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The understanding around sequestration is improving all the time. Plus currently there is no real penalties for constant ploughing
my understanding is there isn't much to be gained from sequestration as soils have a natural carbon limit and most dairy pasture is already there. The ploughing piont I totally accept but it's applicable to all production systems.
 

vantage

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Livestock Farmer
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Pembs
A lot stuff we feed to stock, are by-products, or 'residue' from human food production, which is sold at a 'nice' price. What would happen to them, if we didn't, land fill, free for collection ?
Price is underpinned by demand from AD.
Importing Soya which leads to deforestation is not acceptable, end of. However, you also have to accept feeding people rather than cows is more efficient, there is energy wasted when you feed cows something a person can eat. We should have a farming system which produces milk/meat etc... primarily on what people cannot eat directly
I agree , but I was under the impression that the soya meal was what is left after the oil is extracted.
 

som farmer

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somerset
Price is underpinned by demand from AD.

I agree , but I was under the impression that the soya meal was what is left after the oil is extracted.
true, but, the consumer, or at least those, who are interested, is told soya farming, is cutting down the Amazon rain forests etc etc etc, and to bring it 1,000's of miles to here, is awful.
Those facts are only partially true, but the retailers react to public opinion, and the minority, seem to have the loudest voices. Presumably, as we feed it to stock, there are human foods that can utilise it. Palm oil, by the same reasoning, cuts down the orang-utan's forest homes, so to the vocal few, it is terrible. Then the carbon footprint, of freighting it here ..........
And perhaps it really is 'bad' to import it for animal feed, when with rising food prices, it could be made use of, in a better way.
As soon as something becomes controversial, truth goes out the window, they who shout the loudest, usually win.
From a business view, our processor wants us to reduce, or stop feeding soya, because his customers are telling him, what they want.
The feeding of animals with grain, is seen by many as 'bad', just as they believe farting cows, are destroying the world, as well as many livestock types of farming, because those green zealots, have a better constructive case, even if untrue, and a louder voice, than us. Perhaps its better we do find more 'acceptable' proteins to feed to stock, l don't know.
 

pine_guy

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North Cumbria
What a let down you are 🤣, we set switch off at 5°c and switch on at 5.5 milk needs to be below 6 for our dairy.
Legal requirement is 4.5 I believe. Ours will collect below 6 for one plant and below 5 for another. Neither of them Arla plants 🙈 problem is you never know where it’s going to go so just cool to 4.5. But no lower, electric is dear.
 

crashbox

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Livestock Farmer
Can we go back to having mainly photos in this picture thread please and start a new thread for detailed discussions? A lot of these discussions aren't even prompted by a photo they are just cos someone is too lazy to start their own thread!
I like the Q and A, would be a million new threads about silage/weather/milk quality/everything else...
 

Jdunn55

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Can we go back to having mainly photos in this picture thread please and start a new thread for detailed discussions? A lot of these discussions aren't even prompted by a photo they are just cos someone is too lazy to start their own thread!
Sorry 🙈 50% of that is me 🤣

65 acres of hay cut today!
 

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I like the Q and A, would be a million new threads about silage/weather/milk quality/everything else...
It's always been a picture thread (look at first ever post). There are inevitably some Qs relating directly to the pictures, which is fine.

It's easy enough to search to see if there is already a thread running on a general discussion topic and revive it - or just start a new one. Using your argument why just not have one thread in the entire dairy section?

It's also a lot easier to find an earlier discussion on a specific topic if it has its own thread! E.g. milk collection temperatures.
 

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