Allis chalmers 300t baler ( jones super star)

[Selectamatic]

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Nice to see one being saved!

 

[Roy_H]

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That one is exactly like ours.
I seem to remember some were fitted with an overhead feeder arrangement just above the pick up but apparently it was a disaster.

 

[Bensteyr&valtra]

 

[Selectamatic]

Proper Baler!

Proper Tractor Too!

 

[Bensteyr&valtra]

Hope you mean the nuffield 10/60 haha. The case (db) isn’t too bad. Has its good and bad points like all.

 

[Selectamatic]

Hope you mean the nuffield 10/60 haha. The case (db) isn’t too bad. Has its good and bad points like all.

 

[Selectamatic]

That one is exactly like ours.
I seem to remember some were fitted with an overhead feeder arrangement just above the pick up but apparently it was a disaster.

Top Feed Assist.

A mini reel mounted in the tinwork above the main reel, driven by a vee belt with a twist in it.

I've never used one, but all the one's I've seen have been removed or disconnected, that must say something.

The idea was for better packing, filling the mouth solid with crop would mean that every mouthful into the chamber would be already semi packed. I suppose like a prechamber on today's Big Square Balers.

@Bensteyr&valtra remember to check the conrod for oil before putting it into use. Turn the baler by hand so that the crank arm is at 12 o clock. notice the plug on the conrod, remove this and fill with oil.

This is what lubricates the bushes at the either end, it leaks in use (very gradually, not splurging out) so give it a check each year before setting off.

 

[Roy_H]

Hope you mean the nuffield 10/60 haha. The case (db) isn’t too bad. Has its good and bad points like all.

We had a 10/60. It won second prize for "Brand new tractor that was bought and then left the farm again in the shortest time" ( A Bathgate model, loads of gearbox trouble that the dealer never seemed to get right).
First prize went to a DB 990

 

[Selectamatic]

First prize went to a DB 990

Must have been delivered to the wrong farm...

 

[Roy_H]

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I seem to remember after the twine leaves the twine box it should pass through those two spring loaded tensioners before passing through the twine guide just before the needles.

 

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I seem to remember the twine leaves the twine box then passes through those two spring loaded tensioners before passing through the twine guide just before the needles.

Yes, they do.

 

[Bensteyr&valtra]

It was only set like that to see if it worked. It’s through them now. Ties well too. Makes a good bale.

 

[Roy_H]

It was only set like that to see if it worked. It’s through them now. Ties well too. Makes a good bale.

If the ram knife is kept sharp and ram knife/ shearplate clearance is set correctly, they do make a very neat bale with very deep grooves. A much better bale than say made by an IH baler of the same vintage. However,z I don't know about baling speed compared to say an IH B46 / B47 .

 

[david]

Where was Allis Chamlers balers manufactured ?

I remember a local contractor baling with one when I was a nipper, but couldn't tell you what model it was, but did make tidy bales - and lighter compared to a New Holland baler.

 

[Courier]

Where was Allis Chamlers balers manufactured ?
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In the Jones Balers factory in Mold.

 

[david]

Thanks for posting video - very interesting.

Health and safety looks a bit questionable in the factory - the guys inspecting the baler while running and the chap spraying the paint on

 

[Roy_H]

Where was Allis Chamlers balers manufactured ?

I remember a local contractor baling with one when I was a nipper, but couldn't tell you what model it was, but did make tidy bales - and lighter compared to a New Holland baler.

We had ours fitted with a device to squirt some chemical or other into the bale chamber which was supposed to help preserve hay. (Utter rubbish l seem to recall, we only used it for 1 season* ) but what does stand out in my mind was when the guy came to fit it while he was drilling the holes in the bale chamber, prior to bolting the thing onto it that held the container of fluid and the CO2 cylinder that actually propelled it into the chamber, remarking what a well made baler it was : "The steel that's used to make the chamber on a New Holland is only half as thick as this bugger!"
* I think it may have been called Tithebarn Hay Saver, but it's a long time ago!

 

[borderterribles]

Top Feed Assist.

A mini reel mounted in the tinwork above the main reel, driven by a vee belt with a twist in it.

I've never used one, but all the one's I've seen have been removed or disconnected, that must say something.

The idea was for better packing, filling the mouth solid with crop would mean that every mouthful into the chamber would be already semi packed. I suppose like a prechamber on today's Big Square Balers.

@Bensteyr&valtra remember to check the conrod for oil before putting it into use. Turn the baler by hand so that the crank arm is at 12 o clock. notice the plug on the conrod, remove this and fill with oil.

This is what lubricates the bushes at the either end, it leaks in use (very gradually, not splurging out) so give it a check each year before setting off.

My first Jones Super Star had top feed assist, but my subsequent two didn't. It was very good in straw that had been wuffled up to dry, especially when it didn't want to flow into the chamber. It was never a hinderance, except when the twisted belt would run off the pulley, stopping the top reel with the tines exposed impeding the flow of the crop. It didn't happen often and I thought the others were lesser machines for not having it fitted.