Amazone Amatron 3

[Pheasant Surprise]

One last question if you chaps don't mind.
We keep having error code F35026 come up when we initiate Auto section control in the work menu.
Dealer and importer are still scratching for a solution.
Essentially what it is saying is that Section Control isn't activated in the Task Controller.
So far I have tried running the ZA-V completely through the Fendt VarioTerminal with isobus Task Controller both on and off ; same problem.
Running through the Amatron 3 terminal with the Job Management both on and then off,but still the same error.
Perhaps I need to run a field boundary first?
We have the GPS switch licence activated and have full signal on RangePoint RTX.
Haven't been able to try it on our John Deere 7530 as we are waiting on the extra harness to go from the Greenstar receiver to the GPS input on the Amatron terminal.

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Thought you said you didn't have SC sub activated in the other thread?

 

[Ted]

Thought you said you didn't have SC sub activated in the other thread?

Just got my code for the Amatron GPS switch today.

 

[Ted]

Just to clarify, this code has been present from the start and I had hoped that once the GPS switch licence was I initiated it would remedy it with the appropriate terminal input values.
We don't have SC activated on the Fendt Vario Terminal but I ran the spreader exclusively through it to establish that the error code wasn't something that is occurring only in the Amatron.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Running the spreader exclusively through VarioTerminal won't help, unless you had SC activated on VarioTerminal, which you don't as I understand.

So running everything through Amatron 3 - have you recorded your field boundaries? From the look of that error message have you activated SC in the Amatron menus and otherwise set it up?

 

[Ted]

Establishing a field boundary doesn't appear to help with the error code.
From what little information I have from the importer and dealer it would appear we have the SC menus set up, however the importer is issuing operating instructions using software version V01.08.00 and ours is 07 even though it is a new machine.
At times the two sets of instructions hardly seem to be talking about the same terminal.
Most of these machines are sold here without ever being operated with Section Control so we are following a bit of a blind path...

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

I had a look on the Amazone info-portal just now and the most recent Amatron operating manual (Feb 2017) is for software version 1.09 so even later than what you're getting from the dealer etc.

There is an earlier version of the manual from 2015 for software version 1.06 here.

If you want to have the manual that relates specifically to v1.07, I would drop a quick email to Amazone or fill in the user request from their Info Portal pages. They generally respond the same day and will send you what you need directly. They are awake now.

I would also see if you can get your Amatron 3 updated to the latest software release.

 

[Ted]

Good advice @Pheasant Surprise .
I have the V01.08.00 operators manual downloaded and the 07 version that came with the machine.
I will request a software update and wait for the importer to come back to me with any information they can obtain from Amazone.

 

[General-Lee]

I would also see if you can get your Amatron 3 updated to the latest software release.

How do you get that, dealer job or do able diy? Had amatron 3 for nearly 4 years and not sure it's been updated certainly not recently.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

How do you get that, dealer job or do able diy? Had amatron 3 for nearly 4 years and not sure it's been updated certainly not recently.

I haven't done it, as I don't have an Amatron box. But here's a guide:

 

[Northern farmer]

The SW instructions are nice but how what is the trick to get the website show anything else than advertisements, tutorials and such? Never seen any SW packages shared there. Or could it be region specific (IP based)?

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

The SW instructions are nice but how what is the trick to get the website show anything else than advertisements, tutorials and such? Never seen any SW packages shared there. Or could it be region specific (IP based)?

I've managed to download all the current op. manuals, spreading charts (after I asked them to add them the other week) and isobus software manuals from the info portal for both spreader and sprayer, so they're easy to read off my phone.

Although you don't need it for op manuals and basics spares lists etc, you can register for an account, and I suspect access to firmware files can then be granted if you ask them (maybe beg nicely). They certainly are a lot more responsive than AGCO.

 

[Northern farmer]

I did register years ago. The content appears to be the same if you are logged in or not. I didn't even think about the "personal request based sharing of files". I'm quite sceptic about that happening but will try now (nicely ).

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

I did register years ago. The content appears to be the same if you are logged in or not. I didn't even think about the "personal request based sharing of files". I'm quite sceptic about that happening but will try now (nicely ).

If you tell them the serial no's of the units your seeking firmware files for, then perhaps they will be more sympathic/understanding.

They did after all make that series of how to videos on YouTube showing how to do it...be fairly illogical otherwise.

 

[Northern farmer]

Reminded by another thread about information requested from a dealer, I thought I'd post an update on Amazone customer support.

Almost half a year ago I sent my query via their info-portal. I feel being polite, gave them all the information that could be relevant and I also asked them to help me if they had a better address for my query. Seems they want to provide a well processed answer, or they give a sh* about a small customer from abroad. No response so far.

 

[Vores]

Establishing a field boundary doesn't appear to help with the error code.
From what little information I have from the importer and dealer it would appear we have the SC menus set up, however the importer is issuing operating instructions using software version V01.08.00 and ours is 07 even though it is a new machine.
At times the two sets of instructions hardly seem to be talking about the same terminal.
Most of these machines are sold here without ever being operated with Section Control so we are following a bit of a blind path...

Hey guys,

Fendt and amazon work very well together, there isn't any software problem just settings in my opinion.

Did you make all the settings in the Fendt right like descripted in the amatron 3 manual?
The amatron requests GGA, VTG and GSA @ 5 Hz, being send at 19200 baud, 8 data bits,no parity, 1 stop bit

The fendt terminal simulation for NMEA sttings only allowed me to set the bottom settings correct, at the top the baud rate and parity settings isn't correct. I believe the Task Controller switch in the vario terminal also has to activated.

Succes Ben

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mUe_Mgbf4fBnpH4QfTgHTQzUU4T3zS6v
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1p8I8mCmNV73Xcu8xp9nUtwiajRioT_dK
https://drive.google.com/open?id=18ftdsHfR04kAECISZIqBtzGtxBiSxrfD

 

[drifter]

One last question if you chaps don't mind.
We keep having error code F35026 come up when we initiate Auto section control in the work menu.
Dealer and importer are still scratching for a solution.
Essentially what it is saying is that Section Control isn't activated in the Task Controller.
So far I have tried running the ZA-V completely through the Fendt VarioTerminal with isobus Task Controller both on and off ; same problem.
Running through the Amatron 3 terminal with the Job Management both on and then off,but still the same error.
Perhaps I need to run a field boundary first?
We have the GPS switch licence activated and have full signal on RangePoint RTX.
Haven't been able to try it on our John Deere 7530 as we are waiting on the extra harness to go from the Greenstar receiver to the GPS input on the Amatron terminal.

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Did you get this sorted, that error relates to not having a job running in the Amatron box

 

[Vores]

Hey Guys,

Looked some things up

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1p9TfgzFPY6OM1oOvTDfc4TvrWE3Oaxy9
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YmK1n-M-7CFG7d6aXWUUp_WZFZ_Sn8D7

See page 30 and 31 and make sure your settings are right.

Then you still make sure to turn the TC on the Fendt OFF, told different before.
Also check your iso bus settings from Fendt, you have to configure witch terminal is the primary on the iso bus, if your primary UT is set on fendt terminal I think it wont work.

Good luck.

 

[LHHaller]

Hi guys,

Ted,
Did you figured out the problem already?
Having same problem and same dault code but Im running it on a GreenStar 3 display. The swath control is activated on the GS3 so I don't know what the problem is, also tried another spreader that is exactly the same model with the same GS3 2630 terminal and it works perfectly. Seems to be something that I have to modify on the spreader but couldn't find what the problem is.

Thanks!

 

[Ted]

Hi guys,

Ted,
Did you figured out the problem already?
Having same problem and same dault code but Im running it on a GreenStar 3 display. The swath control is activated on the GS3 so I don't know what the problem is, also tried another spreader that is exactly the same model with the same GS3 2630 terminal and it works perfectly. Seems to be something that I have to modify on the spreader but couldn't find what the problem is.

Thanks!

Hello,The problem with our fault code F35026 was correctly pointed out by @Drifter as not having a job running in the Amatron box.
Machine works very well when run exclusively through the Fendt terminal.

 

[LHHaller]

Hello,The problem with our fault code F35026 was correctly pointed out by @Drifter as not having a job running in the Amatron box.
Machine works very well when run exclusively through the Fendt terminal.

Will try,
Thank you!