Amazone Cirrus seed drill

[Refco]

At the moment I run an old 3m rigid tine Rapid, and I’m looking at getting a newer drill with hyd fan, disc cultivation, 4 metre working width and 3 metre transport width. I have 200hp to pull it with and some steep hills to climb.

The default drill is obviously the Rapid. Something like a 400F or S. However, I’ve never minded being the chap who (sometimes foolishly) tries something ‘that little bit different’.

With that in mind, I’ve seen advertised an Amazone Cirrus 4000, which ticks most of the boxes. Has anybody on here got one of these drills? And if so, how do you rate them?

Many thanks.

 

[Brisel]

Vaderstad Spirit? Horsch DC? The Cirrus looks like a well made bit of kit. Cayena?

Having the press wheels in the middle means a firmer seedbed for the coulters & potentially a more even seed depth than a Rapid in soft ground but in the wet I thnk you'd struggle to cut the seed in.

 

[Andyrob]

Great plains centurion is another too look at with the 4m next year

Seen one working in england, albeit a 6m and the farmer loves it does exactly all that is asked of it, but he pulling it with 290hp or the quadtrack with hills and aiming for higher working speed

 

[Zebbedee]

Have pm,d you, if you have hills I would be wary if 200hp if would be enough though for 4m drill

 

[Brisel]

Depends on how much cultivation you want to do with it. 50hp/m is about right. Here we pull a 6m Rapid with 220hp (37 hp/m). It's certainly not enough on steep hills but on the flat it's fine.

 

[Refco]

Depends on how much cultivation you want to do with it. 50hp/m is about right. Here we pull a 6m Rapid with 220hp (37 hp/m). It's certainly not enough on steep hills but on the flat it's fine.

I'm with you; I think that 50hp/m should be on top of the job for most conditions. I was considering a KV Accord MSC drill which was 4.8m, but I was even put off it by the KV man at Lamma. He said I needed more ponies! That particular drill weighs 7.5 tonnes empty. That's a lot of weight to be dragging about up hills. Hmm..

 

[Brisel]

None of them will be light, least of all the Vaderstad or the Amazone. What do you want to do with it?

 

[Refco]

None of them will be light, least of all the Vaderstad or the Amazone. What do you want to do with it?

I suppose what I’m looking for is a drill that can not only be used on ploughing but also on min till land. The min till land could well be heavy and will only have had one pass with a Discordon after the combine. At best, my Cambridge rollers with paddles down would go in front of the drill if it was dry and cloddy, so the cultivation element would have to be quite aggressive when required.

A nice big seed hopper would be nice, with a straight forward means of getting excess seed out again being even nicer.

To be able to be pulled uphill by 200hp.

Oh yes, and cheap...

 

[blue power]

If you've got some hills and only 200 hp I would go with the Horsch as when going up hill you can lift the discs and still keep a firm seed bed

 

[Zebbedee]

Vaddy is ticking all that boxes refco

 

[Brisel]

I suppose what I’m looking for is a drill that can not only be used on ploughing but also on min till land. The min till land could well be heavy and will only have had one pass with a Discordon after the combine. At best, my Cambridge rollers with paddles down would go in front of the drill if it was dry and cloddy, so the cultivation element would have to be quite aggressive when required.

A nice big seed hopper would be nice, with a straight forward means of getting excess seed out again being even nicer.

To be able to be pulled uphill by 200hp.

Oh yes, and cheap...

You don't want much!

The Cirrus doesn't have any levelling boards, although these would take a lot of hp. Your rolls should do a decent enough levelling job with paddles down. Cultivator drills work best in a consolidated seedbed anyway as the tools have something firm to work against.

How about a piggyback drill with a power harrow subsitute underneath? That brings the budget down considerably. Lemiken Soltaire can swap the power harrow for another toolbar & there will be a few knocking around second hand. KRM also make units that you can swap out.

If the KV MSC isn't your cup of tea why is anything else built more strongly going to do? Perhaps a 3m machine would suit you better as you could load it up with toolbars & still pull it well with 200hp on hills. A centre front press e.g. Richie & well spaced duals could form the press part of the combo.

 

[Garth77]

Hi Just researching the possibility of purchasing the very same drill you have inquired about on this thread. did you buy one in the end? if yes are you happy with it?

 

[Refco]

Hello Garth77, No, I didn't purchase the Cirrus in the end. Too much humming and haaing on my part, means nothing got sorted. My latest idea is to go for a combine (seed & fert) drill, which narrows the field considerably..

 

[Zebbedee]

Back to vaderstad box drill then!!!!!

 

[Refco]

Back to vaderstad box drill then!!!!!

Ha, yes indeed. (You don't miss a trick! )
Actually, hopefully next week I'll be popping down to Agri-Linc to look at a Horsch seed & fert machine. Maybe not quite the same as a Vaddy, but I don't mind a change sometimes... (PM me how much you wanted for your drill. It is seed & fert isn't it?)

 

[Chae1]

One of my friends ran a 4m grain and fert amazon cirrus for spring drilling this spring. Has made a good job. Think its only one in UK. They took it back and remetalled it and have it looking like new again for summer shows.

Pulled it with a t7 200

 

[Will 1594]

Hi Just researching the possibility of purchasing the very same drill you have inquired about on this thread. did you buy one in the end? if yes are you happy with it?

Garth did you get a cirrius bought , we are having a demo with one ,and a cayenna ,
4 m cirrius ,and they say we should pull 6 cayenna with 215 r , you dont hear much about them ,are they not flavourbofbthe month or not fashionable

 

[Brisel]

Garth did you get a cirrius bought , we are having a demo with one ,and a cayenna ,
4 m cirrius ,and they say we should pull 6 cayenna with 215 r , you dont hear much about them ,are they not flavourbofbthe month or not fashionable

There's a reason the Cayena isn't popular! Mind you, they aren't that much different from the Horsch Sprinter in many respects.