America's largest farmland owner (242,000 acres)

[Roger Perry]

That's a 12 row system, if enough trucks are available on time and the crew at the store keep up 75 acres per day in a 20-22t ac crop.

Sorry, meant to say 18 row, 6 each on the windrow diggers and the harvester lifting 6 plus the left/right windrow.

 

[glasshouse]

The way to help the disadvantaged isn't to penalise the advantaged.

So death dutie after Ww1 to penalise the wealthy Estates forcing them to sell farms to tenants was a mistake?
When did your grandfather buy his farm?

 

[glasshouse]

Quite, though in law that's what you need to do as the super rich can afford better lawyers & accountants.

You don't multiply wealth by dividing it.



No, just you.

I'm also trying to understand what @Henarar means by "greedy."

Are you going to stand as a tory mp?
You would fit in well, dismissing labour mps as simply jealous

 

[Brisel]

Are you going to stand as a tory mp?
You would fit in well, dismissing labour mps as simply jealous

Are you a Labour MP?

 

[Suffolk Serf]

So death dutie after Ww1 to penalise the wealthy Estates forcing them to sell farms to tenants was a mistake?
When did your grandfather buy his farm?

Never. One Grandfather was an eye surgeon and the other had a tenanted farm after WW1 and lost it in the 1930's, then worked his way up to be an estate manger. My father (his youngest son) was an agricultural engineer.
I started with nothing (and still have most of it left). I rent land on an FBT from one of the last traditional estates who fortunately for me don't want to own and run every possible enterprise themselves.
My landlord owns over 10000 acres and I'm sure that brings it's own problems. I'm fortunate to have none of the family issues that often goes with inherited land.

 

[Hilly]

So death dutie after Ww1 to penalise the wealthy Estates forcing them to sell farms to tenants was a mistake?
When did your grandfather buy his farm?

So when you have your 500acres put all the blood sweat and tears into it to make it best it possible can be won’t you want to leave it to your kids ? Death duty’s force them to sell it tho ..... ???

 

[glasshouse]

Never. One Grandfather was an eye surgeon and the other had a tenanted farm after WW1 and lost it in the 1930's, then worked his way up to be an estate manger. My father (his youngest son) was an agricultural engineer.
I started with nothing (and still have most of it left). I rent land on an FBT from one of the last traditional estates who fortunately for me don't want to own and run every possible enterprise themselves.
My landlord owns over 10000 acres and I'm sure that brings it's own problems. I'm fortunate to have none of the family issues that often goes with inherited land.

Ok, so were death duties a mistake?

 

[Doc]

Personally, I believe death duties to be the cruellest form of taxation for exactly the above reason.
Ag actually gets off quite lightly with APR and supports a mini industry of mitigation and investment. Doesn’t this have an effect on land values too?

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Ok, so were death duties a mistake?

There were pros and cons, winners and losers, it had no effect on me because a) I wasn't alive then. b) None of my forebears gained or lost through them as far as I am aware.

 

[7610 super q]

Ok, so were death duties a mistake?

Yes. Virtually all mansions / manor houses in West Wales were demolished rather than paying this tax. All that history lost forever.

 

[glasshouse]

So when you have your 500acres put all the blood sweat and tears into it to make it best it possible can be won’t you want to leave it to your kids ? Death duty’s force them to sell it tho ..... ???

There were pros and cons, winners and losers, it had no effect on me because a) I wasn't alive then. b) None of my forebears gained or lost through them as far as I am aware.

can you not consider the wider picture beyond your own interest?

 

[glasshouse]

Yes. Virtually all mansions / manor houses in West Wales were demolished rather than paying this tax. All that history lost forever.

All those black holes gone forever, what a result.

 

[Hilly]

can you not consider the wider picture beyond your own interest?

Which is ? I would a farmers situation will also be another farmers situation.

 

[glasshouse]

Which is ? I would a farmers situation will also be another farmers situation.

Sorry that was nt aimed at you
Death duties after ww1 allowed vast numbers of farmers to own land. That has to be progress.

 

[Hilly]

Sorry that was nt aimed at you
Death duties after ww1 allowed vast numbers of farmers to own land. That has to be progress.

What benefit would their be today if Te introduced ?

 

[glasshouse]

What benefit would their be today if Te introduced ?

They have done their job

 

[Hilly]

They have done their job

Oh so you don’t want them re introduced ?

 

[glasshouse]

Oh so you don’t want them re introduced ?

I never said i did

 

[7610 super q]

What's mine is mine. And what's yours is mine as well...........

 

[Hilly]

The land gets sold in the end it’s just a time thing, lots of the estates are selling bits off now, Dyson will have his day it might be a long day but one day .. you can not take land with you essentially your just paying to borrow it when you buy it anyway .