An American trade deal? What will the effect be on British farming?

[Campani]

I imagine by January trade discussions will have begun with America. What's going to be the effect on British agriculture?

I would imagine America will be very keen to sell us lots of beef? and GM soya?
What can we sell them?

 

[M-J-G]

Nothing really, I'd guess the traffic will be one way.

 

[Henarar]

We will be able to buy big gas guzzling cars cheaper and fec the environment even faster

 

[averageguy54]

A couple things to be aware of is that American farmers are under no obligation to label GMO foods as such. They also have legislation,or a lack of it, that allows growth hormones in meat and dairy products, also not labelled. They will probably attack any sort of subsidy or support from government through whatever trade tribunal is set up with the agreement as unfair, however, they, despite their protestations, subsidize farming by paying farmers to not grow crops.

You lads need to start getting some homework done before a deal is made or announced and lobby government to ensure a reasonably level playing field. Rest assured, if the US is looking for a trade deal they have too large a surplus of commodity and they'll sell it at bargain basement prices.

 

[Campani]

Interestingly Climate Change is not allowed (by law) to be mentioned in US trade deals. Which I guess means no benefit from conservation ag, or grassland carbon sequestration when selling to America?

 

[lazy farmer]

A couple things to be aware of is that American farmers are under no obligation to label GMO foods as such. They also have legislation,or a lack of it, that allows growth hormones in meat and dairy products, also not labelled. They will probably attack any sort of subsidy or support from government through whatever trade tribunal is set up with the agreement as unfair, however, they, despite their protestations, subsidize farming by paying farmers to not grow crops.

You lads need to start getting some homework done before a deal is made or announced and lobby government to ensure a reasonably level playing field. Rest assured, if the US is looking for a trade deal they have too large a surplus of commodity and they'll sell it at bargain basement prices.

Don’t worry I’m sure the majority on here and the majority of the industry knew exactly the repercussions of what they were voting for......

 

[Werzle]

Yawn. Have a day off boys, you will worry yourselves into an early grave.

 

[Still Farming]

48hr days, working to fill the orders.

 

[neilo]

I would imagine America will be very keen to sell us lots of beef? and GM soya?

We already buy a lot of GM soya.

On the news this morning, the US was just signing a trade deal with China, which would allow them to export agricultural produce to them. They will be taking all the meat they can get just now I'd have thought.

 

[Brisel]

I imagine by January trade discussions will have begun with America. What's going to be the effect on British agriculture?

I would imagine America will be very keen to sell us lots of beef? and GM soya?
What can we sell them?

They like British cheese and have a thirst for Scotch whisky, though Trump has slapped a big tariff on it in retaliation for subsidising Airbus. They are actually our biggest current export market if you take EU member states individually.

I have no doubt they will want to sell us crops and meat too.

 

[betweenthelines]

Why does anyone think that a UK Govt (of any persuasion) would do any deal that harmed the economy, or any part of it? Getting a "good" deal on meat imports is counterproductive if the money saved ends up being spent on rural support payments.

 

[DRC]

Yawn. Have a day off boys, you will worry yourselves into an early grave.

You might be having plenty of days off soon

 

[livestock 1]

The current ‘deal’ that Boris has agreed with the eu still continues with existing trade as it is but for this to be allowed we can not import any goods from America which is farmed to rules inferior to the current eu rules. They say if we did the said goods would end up in Europe.
Just what I’ve read

 

[Smith31]

The current ‘deal’ that Boris has agreed with the eu still continues with existing trade as it is but for this to be allowed we can not import any goods from America which is farmed to rules inferior to the current eu rules. They say if we did the said goods would end up in Europe.
Just what I’ve read

I doubt we can produce anything cheaper then America, the scale of their production dwarfs ours. Hopefully, there is some form of restrictions on imports or we might be in for a hard time.

Just want Brexit done and dusted so we can see where we stand.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Why does anyone think that a UK Govt (of any persuasion) would do any deal that harmed the economy, or any part of it? Getting a "good" deal on meat imports is counterproductive if the money saved ends up being spent on rural support payments.

It is called trade offs. You might well sacrifice agriculture to have access to a much more lucrative market for gold plated widgets or similar. There are absolutely no guarantees on rural support payments going forward. It is not economically possible for the Conservatives to keep all their promises on expenditure and my bet will be that infrastructure and NHS in the North will see the benefits as thanks for giving them such a large majority. Any way of keeping food prices and inflation down will be used.
There will be payments for all sectors to reduce or sequestrate carbon and some money for the environment but it is very hard to see the BPS system surviving in its present form. Ironically a strong pound really will work against us as imports will be cheaper. However our inputs in the red meat sector, dairy and to a degree cropping will not decrease enough to give a competitive edge.
The Farming Unions will now have a massive fight to keep what we have and I do hope that all of you that criticise the NFU's do so from the inside of the organisations and don't whinge from the outside. Food standards and high welfare may be the only selling point we have!

 

[livestock 1]

I doubt we can produce anything cheaper then America, the scale of their production dwarfs ours. Hopefully, there is some form of restrictions on imports or we might be in for a hard time.

Just want Brexit done and dusted so we can see where we stand.

I read it on a government website

 

[Roger Perry]

I doubt we can produce anything cheaper then America, the scale of their production dwarfs ours. Hopefully, there is some form of restrictions on imports or we might be in for a hard time.

Just want Brexit done and dusted so we can see where we stand.

A tariff maybe..?

 

[livestock 1]

It is called trade offs. You might well sacrifice agriculture to have access to a much more lucrative market for gold plated widgets or similar. There are absolutely no guarantees on rural support payments going forward. It is not economically possible for the Conservatives to keep all their promises on expenditure and my bet will be that infrastructure and NHS in the North will see the benefits as thanks for giving them such a large majority. Any way of keeping food prices and inflation down will be used.
There will be payments for all sectors to reduce or sequestrate carbon and some money for the environment but it is very hard to see the BPS system surviving in its present form. Ironically a strong pound really will work against us as imports will be cheaper. However our inputs in the red meat sector, dairy and to a degree cropping will not decrease enough to give a competitive edge.
The Farming Unions will now have a massive fight to keep what we have and I do hope that all of you that criticise the NFU's do so from the inside of the organisations and don't whinge from the outside. Food standards and high welfare may be the only selling point we have!

I’ve said from the beginning the trouble is that something small for this country like agriculture could be traded off for something like financial services which brings in a massive amount of money all the while enhancing America’s massive agricultural system

 

[SilliamWhale]

I can see EU coming round very quickly to a deal that will make them happy to keep trade and put a very nominal barrier or tax to our entry into their market in exchange for us exchanging the principal of free movement.

 

[Smith31]

A tariff maybe..?

Mr Trump is very sharp, I very much doubt he will.agree to tariffs he will work in the American farmers best interest.

Time will tell, there's nothing we can do about it so pointless worrying.

 

[livestock 1]

Mr Trump is very sharp, I very much doubt he will.agree to tariffs he will work in the American farmers best interest.

Time will tell, there's nothing we can do about it so pointless worrying.

I’ve got to that way of thinking too.
Worry about the things we can do something about and let someone else worry about the other stuff