An explanation of why it is best to let rivers silt up

[Devil's advocate]

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZ_BuyM41s

The above film explains why the EA does not dredge. I think is nonsense but we should understand their argument, to argue against it.

 

[Muddyroads]

All well and good on sand and gravel, but is it realistic? If so, maybe they’re right, though I don’t like admitting it.

 

[milkloss]

Um, not very knowledgable, but why not start on the upstream end and work your way down? That way you're clearing the snot the you loosened earlier as you work your way down.

 

[Kidds]

Um, not very knowledgable, but why not start on the upstream end and work your way down? That way you're clearing the snot the you loosened earlier as you work your way down.

Because the water backs up too.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Absolute nonsense. Rivers have always moved about naturally. How many houses and roads have been destroyed nationally by river bank erosion? Great, now tell me how many have been flooded nationally in the last 10 years?

The Environment Agency don't want to dredge because they are staffed by pea-brained ecology degreeholders who are more interested in rare newts than peoples livelihoods and private property.

These waterways have been maintained by man in many cases for centuries at great expense and effort. Yet these goons think they know better. No, spend the tax payers cash on new pickup trucks and legions of hi vis rather than a gang of blokes to know how to run a digger all day.

These repeated floodings will get worse and happen again and again. Tell me the economic cost of the repair and relief efforts. Public sentiment and politica will shall turn against the EA in time. 20 years of this buffonery is enough.

 

[Al R]

I know someone quite high up the EA flooding team and asked them about how bad the flooding was on that 500acre farm in the east a few months back, their reply was that with farmland your upsetting a few people, if a town floods you’ve got thousands of angry people - all about protecting the chimneys basically.

 

[Hooby Farmer]

Dredge them out I'm willing to take the risk.

 

[Lowland1]

What it means is once you start to dredge you will have to continue to dredge. If you want avoid flooding it will be a continuous process i think they are more worried about the cost than the environmental affect.

 

[Werzle]

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZ_BuyM41s

The above film explains why the EA does not dredge. I think is nonsense but we should understand their argument, to argue against it.

Never trust a man wearing an armfull of leather bangles. Most river beds are like concrete

 

[onthehoof]

What a load of bollards every river is different, here the silt comes in from the sea and is deposited when the tide turns also the river is virtually flat so there is no flow to scour the river bed, if they don't take out this imported silt eventually the river will block completely, which is what it did when it used to flow to Wisbech and now flows to King's Lynn, you can't take a pile of loose gravel and say that's how every river works.

 

[onthehoof]

I know someone quite high up the EA flooding team and asked them about how bad the flooding was on that 500acre farm in the east a few months back, their reply was that with farmland your upsetting a few people, if a town floods you’ve got thousands of angry people - all about protecting the chimneys basically.

This ^^^

 

[bluebell]

while you can import everything, and i mean not just food but people skills this very dangerous folly will prevail? it will take a national emergency for all this to change, will it then be to late , with the massive population growth coupled with the many many thousands of acres of land lost to development and housing?

 

[Muddyroads]

Then the rest will be planted in trees!

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Planning application on a field next to one that I rent has just gone in . It was recently under water !

 

[bluebell]

it allways makes me angry when the same people that demonstrate for open borders also are demonstrating about protecting the environment? join the dots the two are linked when the question of climate change comes up population growth that then fuels development of land is very rarely mentioned is it rascist to link the two?

 

[Scholsey]

Think people forget why their lovely flat, silty, easy to work fields look like they do, because rivers made them like that!

Just because they might not have flooded in a couple of decades doesn’t mean they aren’t flood plains.

Despite all these new’ floods you still don’t see many churches being flooded, they knew where rivers could flood to then, why do we all seem to think we are immune to it now. They weren’t dredging in the 16 Century.

The people moaning about new builds being the issue I bet would still love to sell a few acres for couple of hundred thousand pound.

 

[quattro]

They used to plant willows alongside edges and corners of rivers that were vulnerable to erosion, do they still do it
I would personally seek advice from the Dutch
I think that video was using plastic beads,if anyone builds a reservoir they don’t just dump loose sandy soil and then fill with water

 

[Pilatus]

All I know is that if you let debris build up in roof gutters they overflow
When farming a small stream ran through one long meadow,if the stream was not cleaned out at least once every two years it used to flood.

 

[Hooby Farmer]

@quattro the Netherlands have just finished a multi billion euro project around Zeeland the area the suffered massive surge flooding in the early fifties. It's designed to help protect it from flooding for 4000 years (how they work that out I don't know, some smart ass will try and be pedantic and ask). It's a engineering on huge scale gigantic scale.

 

[quattro]

@quattro the Netherlands have just finished a multi billion euro project around Zeeland the area the suffered massive surge flooding in the early fifties. It's designed to help protect it from flooding for 4000 years (how they work that out I don't know, some smart ass will try and be pedantic and ask). It's a engineering on huge scale gigantic scale.

I think I would take more notice of their advice than the ea who seem to put more effort into coming up with excuses to not do anything