And so it begins - Telegraph

[DaveGrohl]

 

[essex man]

How to spend lots more money, borrow more money and create more inflation for no improvement in service

 

[DaveGrohl]

And it’s farmers that are right in the crosshairs for more tax to pay for all of this economic illiteracy.

 

[David.]

Are teachers actually poorly paid?

 

[David.]

And it’s farmers that are right in the crosshairs for more tax to pay for all of this economic illiteracy.

Not if you are a tenant, and aren't showing much profit, surely.

 

[ewald]

All of their spending plans are based on an expanding economy - many of their proposals (tax changes, employment laws, union representation etc) would seem to make it more difficult for small and medium businesses to operate - these businesses have traditionally been a driver for economic growth.

 

[essex man]

Those in the public sector vote for Labour in order to get looked after.
They are getting looked after.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Not if you are a tenant, and aren't showing much profit, surely.

They’ll have something in the budget for that particular situation I’m sure. There’s no money to start with, tax rises and spending cuts are needed already without them making new promises like these that will cause more problems. The money has to come from somewhere.

Funnily enough, I’d just read a profile of Reeves praising her as being well-qualified for the job and sensible. And then I heard BBC reporting above inflation pay rises for the public sector. There was a gap of about a minute between the two reports

 

[d-wales]

Are teachers actually poorly paid?

My partner is a teacher in a secondary school, the highest grade she can get to without becoming assistant or head teacher etc.

We worked it out that she's on about £22 an hour.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Oh, and Reeves had Brown as her role model. Yer actual Gordon Brown. As a role model.

 

[devonbeef]

My partner is a teacher in a secondary school, the highest grade she can get to without becoming assistant or head teacher etc.

We worked it out that she's on about £22 an hour.

so £44600 a year £22x39 hour x 52 weeks , paid holiday etc many would say not bad
So NOT poorly paid thank you for clarifying to one of the person s who pays their wage

 

[czechmate]

so £44600 a year £22x39 hour x 52 weeks , paid holiday etc many would say not bad
So NOT poorly paid thank you for clarifying to one of the person s who pays their wage

But teachers are leaving and there are now teacher shortages ?

 

[WillYorkshire]

so £44600 a year £22x39 hour x 52 weeks , paid holiday etc many would say not bad
So NOT poorly paid thank you for clarifying to one of the person s who pays their wage

Isn't a third of it school holidays? Tin hat on!

 

[HatsOff]

Given that wages were held at 1% increases for a long time and inflation was at 11% in recent history. A 5.5% rise doesn't seem 'bumper'.

Reminder that the state pension welfare went up by 10.1% last year.

 

[box]

But teachers are leaving and there are now teacher shortages ?

Green grass syndrome.

If they won't work for what they're being paid, bring in someone that will. There's always someone out there that will do the job better and cheaper than you.

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

But teachers are leaving and there are now teacher shortages ?

I don’t think that’s just due to money. It’s more the stress of dealing with out of control kids, irresponsible parents and the woke agenda

 

[DaveGrohl]

Given that wages were held at 1% increases for a long time and inflation was at 11% in recent history. A 5.5% rise doesn't seem 'bumper'.

Reminder that the state pension welfare went up by 10.1% last year.

Discrepancies abound certainly, all the more so when you get wild swings in inflation for inastance. But public sector vs private sector, why are public sector workers any different to those that will end up having to pay them?

Having a strong economy is what will pay for everything in the long run, but Labour policies always make things worse over time. The canary’s clearly dead already looking at this.

 

[devonbeef]

But teachers are leaving and there are now teacher shortages ?

My son has just finished his Gcse , the standard of teaching is appalling. Some of them sitting at computer doing private matters when supposed to be teaching , The CTD teaching was so bad i am going to complain ( engineering, woodwork , design) Some of the teachers are good , many from sending two kids in over the last years , are crap

 

[DaveGrohl]

I don’t think that’s just due to money. It’s more the stress of dealing with out of control kids, irresponsible parents and the woke agenda

I can totally understand why teachers might be getting fed up.

 

[Exfarmer]

Before blaming the new government too quickly, this is not what has been promised. This is the recommendations of an independent body which has been operating for a very long time in the public sector and quite possibly part of Rishi‘s reason for going for an election as he knew what was coming.
Whether the government goes for it is another issue and also whther the Teachers and Nurses accept iot either another. The big question is the junior doctors. Remember they have already turned down 14% offered by the last government and whatever they finally settle for is going to be looked at setting the base for all the other unions