And we thought climate change would wipe out humanity....

[beardface]

Falling sperm counts 'threaten human survival', expert warns | US news | The Guardian

Falling sperm counts 'threaten human survival', expert warns

Epidemiologist Shanna Swan says low counts and changes to sexual development could endanger human species

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bald Rick]

Interesting that she concludes that smoking tobacco, marijuana and obesity are the root causes.

 

[beardface]

Population decline is the most important thing facing humanity, in terms of the continuation of society, yet is hardly spoken about.

 

[Bald Rick]

Population decline is the most important thing facing humanity, in terms of the continuation of society, yet is hardly spoken about.

That’s a good thing.

I sometimes think of all those bottoms going up and down

 

[andyt87]

Interesting that she concludes that smoking tobacco, marijuana and obesity are the root causes.

Chavs don't seem to struggle having kids though

Isn't soya with its phytoestrogen creeping into everyday diets just as likely to be the issue?

 

[jpd]

and there was me thinking there was toooooooooo many of us.
most of us are farmers
we see what happens when the warren get overpopulated
will the same not happen to us?
i think the world pop in 1900 was 1 billion
whats it now?

 

[beardface]

The issue with population decline and sudden high levels of infertility or people choosing not to procreate is an aging population. We can say how fantastic a shrinking world population will be for the planet, but who's going to care for all the elderly. Imagine for a moment that your children or grandchildren were the last generation to be born.....

 

[Bald Rick]

The issue with population decline and sudden high levels of infertility or people choosing not to procreate is an aging population. We can say how fantastic a shrinking world population will be for the planet, but who's going to care for all the elderly. Imagine for a moment that your children or grandchildren were the last generation to be born.....

The report was on western society.

Other societies (except Japan who are in serious trouble with exactly as you point out) are still breeding quite happily.

All hail the Radfords .... 22 kids and counting

 

[Sid]

Chavs don't seem to struggle having kids though

Isn't soya with its phytoestrogen creeping into everyday diets just as likely to be the issue?

I stumbled across a clip on tik tok about 5 American men who had IIRC 81 kids from about 25 different women!

 

[beardface]

All areas of the world are seeing a drop in both reproduction and fertility rate. I can't remember where I read it, but the average age in countries like Italy will be over 50 by the end of the century.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Chavs don't seem to struggle having kids though

Isn't soya with its phytoestrogen creeping into everyday diets just as likely to be the issue?

Heaps of reasons combined.
Birth control, sedentary lifestyle, sh!t food and overcrowding to name a few.

Whether it will "threaten humanity" in the manner the link suggests or simply force a massive rethink is another matter.

 

[Rowland]

Chavs don't seem to struggle having kids though

Isn't soya with its phytoestrogen creeping into everyday diets just as likely to be the issue?

My thoughts exactly. Pop into local shops around mid afternoon and the amount of @16 year olds with kids is unbelievable

 

[Sid]

My thoughts exactly. Pop into local shops around mid afternoon and the amount of @16 year olds with kids is unbelievable

One doesn’t have shops like that in this area you know.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

My thoughts exactly. Pop into local shops around mid afternoon and the amount of @16 year olds with kids is unbelievable

I wonder how that all pans out in 60 year's time when elderly kids are trying to cope with elderly parents and their own elderly kids.... because welfare, as we know it, just isn't going to be available.

 

[beardface]

Heaps of reasons combined.
Birth control, sedentary lifestyle, sh!t food and overcrowding to name a few.

Whether it will "threaten humanity" in the manner the link suggests or simply force a massive rethink is another matter.

It's not the reduction in births that's the thing to think about. It's what we do as a society to maintain ourselves when the average age is over 50. How do we keep society going when people aren't young enough to do the jobs, such as agriculture to sustain society.

 

[Rowland]

I wonder how that all pans out in 60 year's time when elderly kids are trying to cope with elderly parents and their own elderly kids.... because welfare, as we know it, just isn't going to be available.

There kids will have kids at 15/16 and the same going forward they’ll probably have great great grand kids .

 

[Rowland]

Less people will be no bad thing in my opinion the Western word is way over populated

 

[Kiwi Pete]

It's not the reduction in births that's the thing to think about. It's what we do as a society to maintain ourselves when the average age is over 50. How do we keep society going when people aren't young enough to do the jobs, such as agriculture to sustain society.

A great rethink and revolution...
Food is pretty easy, unless we give away our rights to save seed.
Most octogenerians around here pride themselves in their gardening skills, and they don't even have plough/DD handbag fights!!

Just because today relies on make believe jobs in offices and suchlike, I only see that as being temporary. A good economic crash in the near future will relegate most of them to the unemployed list, and suddenly food will be as important as drugs and consumer items.

In civilisations past, which crashed as ours will crash, there was a great emphasis on passing down knowledge from the elderly.
Sad to think that many of these vital life skills are going to be lost well before they are needed again, but at least granny will be able to show them how to make a crack pipe out of an old indicator bulb

 

[Netherfield]

I've been disconnected, Too late for me to donate any sperm.

 

[Rowland]

One doesn’t have shops like that in this area you know.

Tharrs posh thn