Animal slaughter

[BrianV]

This chap was a tad unlucky in how it turned out but how many of us are aware it's illegal to shoot a farm animal?

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[betweenthelines]

Disgusting. He deserves all he gets. Makes you wonder how many other animals he has dispatched in such an inept and cruel manner

 

[BrianV]

Disgusting. He deserves all he gets. Makes you wonder how many other animals he has dispatched in such an inept and cruel manner

Think that's being a little harsh without knowing the full circumstances which are not always straight forward, my point was it could be a blurred line as to when it's acceptable for us as farmers to dispatch an animal we feel is in distress.

 

[roscoe erf]

This chap was a tad unlucky in how it turned out but how many of us are aware it's illegal to shoot a farm animal?

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he had to shoot it more than once and in the back of the head f.f.s and in front of trading standards officers got what he deserved

 

[steveR]

he had to shoot it more than once and in the back of the head f.f.s and in front of trading standards officers got what he deserved

Out of interest, what is the particular issue with shooting in the back of the head?

I was told by a slaughterman years ago, that if euthanasing a ewe shoot it at the back of the head. That's with a .22 or similiar calibre. Cattle should be shot from the front, large calibre rifle, or as one knackerman used to do, a 12b at close range

 

[JD-Kid]

Out of interest, what is the particular issue with shooting in the back of the head?

im guessing cos thats what the book says cattle shot front on

 

[ritchiekirkland]

Out of interest, what is the particular issue with shooting in the back of the head?

I was told by a slaughterman years ago, that if euthanasing a ewe shoot it at the back of the head. That's with a .22 or similiar calibre. Cattle should be shot from the front, large calibre rifle, or as one knackerman used to do, a 12b at close range

Big rifle for tups too!!!!

 

[BrianV]

he had to shoot it more than once and in the back of the head f.f.s and in front of trading standards officers got what he deserved

I always think it's bloody marvellous how some people never make a mistake or have something go wrong, how very clever they must think they are!

 

[roscoe erf]

I always think it's bloody marvellous how some people never make a mistake or have something go wrong, how very clever they must think they are!

He made more than one mistake

 

[e5c0rt.mk1]

Makes you think if he didn't make such a balls of doing it, would anyone have even asked about him having a licence.

However the whole situation sounds abit strange, what was going on for trading standards, a vet and a knacker man who can't aim, all to be there at the same time. Why didn't the vet just put it down?

 

[steveR]

Makes you think if he didn't make such a balls of doing it, would anyone have even asked about him having a licence.

However the whole situation sounds abit strange, what was going on for trading standards, a vet and a knacker man who can't aim, all to be there at the same time. Why didn't the vet just put it down?

Vets will not put animals down nowadays....

 

[BrianV]

He made more than one mistake

Very much depends on how quiet the animal was, if it was endlessly thrashing around as some will it's not as simple as some would believe.

 

[Bald Rick]

Vets will not put animals down nowadays....

Ours will. And thank God they do as there is nothing worse than waiting for the knacker man if the animal is in pain

 

[Tarw Coch]

Vets will not put animals down nowadays....

Ours will, I would have thought all vets will or at least they would last time there was need for them to here, I’d be very surprised if that had changed.

 

[unlacedgecko]

This chap was a tad unlucky in how it turned out but how many of us are aware it's illegal to shoot a farm animal?

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It's not illegal to shoot a farm animal.

From the DEFRA website.



Clearly, Mr Mullin was working as a knacker man without the correct licence.

However, the same regulations state a licence is not required for home kill, nor for putting down animals in an emergency, or using a free bullet in a field where the animal is not going to be eaten.

Do not let this case discourage anyone from humanely destroying livestock on their own farm. It is always legal to kill an animal to prevent suffering.

 

[box]

Clearly, Mr Mullin was working as a knacker man without the correct licence.

That.

I'd have expected the employer to be fined as well, surely it's also their responsibility to ensure their employees are correctly licensed and trained for the job?

Poor cow.....

 

[roscoe erf]

Out of interest, what is the particular issue with shooting in the back of the head?

I was told by a slaughterman years ago, that if euthanasing a ewe shoot it at the back of the head. That's with a .22 or similiar calibre. Cattle should be shot from the front, large calibre rifle, or as one knackerman used to do, a 12b at close range

I was taught to shoot horses and cattle from the front to make a imaginary cross from right ear to left eye and left ear to right eye and where the cross meets you have the point of entry, i've never had a situation as described and i've never seen anyone shoot a large animal from behind how do you know for sure your in the right place you'll end up in the mess that chap was .

 

[roscoe erf]

It's not illegal to shoot a farm animal.

From the DEFRA website.

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Clearly, Mr Mullin was working as a knacker man without the correct licence.

However, the same regulations state a licence is not required for home kill, nor for putting down animals in an emergency, or using a free bullet in a field where the animal is not going to be eaten.
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Do not let this case discourage anyone from humanely destroying livestock on their own farm. It is always legal to kill an animal to prevent suffering.

well that makes the situation even worse

 

[Paddington]

We have had vets in to dispatch sheep in pain and they have done the job quickly and professionally. On one occasion, on the advice of our vet who was unable to kill an adult boar, we called in a rifleman from the knackers. Instead a chap turned up with a captive bolt gun who said it would be sufficient to do the job. It was not. After four shots and the boar screaming in pain for almost an hour, the rifleman was called in. For each shot I had to get into the pen to get the crazed animal (with tusks) near enough to the side of the pen to be shot. With me doing most of the work, the pig was eventually loaded onto the truck which left with a trail of blood down the road. I didn't ask whether the knackerman had WATOK training.

 

[box]

We have had vets in to dispatch sheep in pain and they have done the job quickly and professionally. On one occasion, on the advice of our vet who was unable to kill an adult boar, we called in a rifleman from the knackers. Instead a chap turned up with a captive bolt gun who said it would be sufficient to do the job. It was not. After four shots and the boar screaming in pain for almost an hour, the rifleman was called in. For each shot I had to get into the pen to get the crazed animal (with tusks) near enough to the side of the pen to be shot. With me doing most of the work, the pig was eventually loaded onto the truck which left with a trail of blood down the road. I didn't ask whether the knackerman had WATOK training.

Failed captive bolt stuns are attrociously inhumane, their use on farm should be banned IMO, yet the powers that be continue to insist that they're a humane slaughter device. The worst bit is the amount of untrained people out there who assume the captive bolt kills the animal, then fail to pith or stick the stunned beast afterwards (usually because they don't want to get their hands dirty)

Either buy a gun or find someone with a gun, stick the Blitz Kerner in the scrap metal bin where it belongs.

Why could the vet not do it?