Announcement Tomorrow on Banning Live Exports and More Restrictions On Domestic Journeys

[le bon paysan]

Problems with carcasse exports need to improve then.

Brexit: Lamb exporter to EU 'making virtually nothing'

Powys meat processing plant warns the extra cost of selling into the EU could mean major job losses.

www.bbc.com

 

[Raider112]

Problems with carcasse exports need to improve then.

Brexit: Lamb exporter to EU 'making virtually nothing'

Powys meat processing plant warns the extra cost of selling into the EU could mean major job losses.

www.bbc.com

You haven't had as many of these for a day or two, I was hoping you had got yourself a hobby

 

[Ffermer Bach]

@Ffermer Bach I did use yours as a bit of a template, I hope you do not mind. (it is called plagerism or some thing of the sort!!!)

more than happy, the more letter we can write, the more something may be done about it

 

[le bon paysan]

You haven't had as many of these for a day or two, I was hoping you had got yourself a hobby

Annoying you is my hobbyat least until it stops raining

 

[Henarar]

You haven't had as many of these for a day or two, I was hoping you had got yourself a hobby

He has its called misery

 

[Wolds Beef]

Lovely and drying here I hope it keeps raining in France.
Buy British and leave french stuff on the shelf!!
WB

 

[JP1]

Final reminder to all stock farmers, hauliers, livestock agents and others that the deadline for response submissions to the DEFRA consultation is this Thursday 25th February. I would urge you all to respond.

As someone who assisted with much of the background detail for the NFU response, I've seen an embargoed draft and I am full of admiration by just how much their team has put together in the timeframe and on behalf of the sector

 

[beardface]

Final reminder to all stock farmers, hauliers, livestock agents and others that the deadline for response submissions to the DEFRA consultation is this Thursday 25th February. I would urge you all to respond.

As someone who assisted with much of the background detail for the NFU response, I've seen an embargoed draft and I am full of admiration by just how much their team has put together in the timeframe and on behalf of the sector

Do we know when Defra will give its response?

 

[JP1]

Do we know when Defra will give its response?

They have not expressly stated

I would HOPE the Minister is sufficiently embarrassed as to the pejorative language (NGO phrasing), lack of credible EVIDENCE from the FAWC review they procured in 2018 and the sheer impracticality of much of the proposals, that they choose to go in to a sustained period of consultation and not implement as they hinted by the end of the year

 

[beardface]

They have not expressly stated

I would HOPE the Minister is sufficiently embarrassed as to the pejorative language (NGO phrasing), lack of credible EVIDENCE from the FAWC review they procured in 2018 and the sheer impracticality of much of the proposals, that they choose to go in to a sustained period of consultation and not implement as they hinted by the end of the year

More than likely. The optimist in me wants to believe this consultation has merely been to appease the NGO's and that DEFRA will simply kick this can down the road for a few more years yet.

 

[Wolds Beef]

@JP1 You no me and IT! But I sent a long piece about this to my MP Ms Victoria Atkins whose researcher has forwarded it Baron Gardiner of Kimble who apparently is Parliamentry Under Secretary of State for Rural Affairs and Biosecurity. Apparently he is a partner in a family farm in Buckinghamshire. They promise to keep me informed. We await with interest!!!
WB

 

[JP1]

Deadline tomorrow

Please if you have not responded, take the time to do so

I have now submitted my response, as have the NFU. There is still time to do this

 

[kfpben]

Done.
Wrote to my MP and invited him to come and see some lambing too.

Plus for him; pics of with cute lambs for the local paper
Plus for me; time to absolutely roast him over these illogical, unworkable and damaging proposals for our industry.

 

[Wolds Beef]

@le bon paysan Took you long enough to realise! Your getting slower it must be all that c##p wine that little napoleon keeps producing!!
WB
British champagne is muuuch better.

 

[le bon paysan]

@le bon paysan Took you long enough to realise! Your getting slower it must be all that c##p wine that little napoleon keeps producing!!
WB
British champagne is shoite.

Drink ' Limoux' demi- sec! (So much more sun on the vines= plus bien) en chez moi

 

[topground]

Reply from George Eustice to Liam Fox MP, comments?

Dear Liam,
Our ref: MC2020/00408/DT
5 March 2021
Thank you for your email of 7 January 2021 on behalf of your constituent, ** ****** ****** , regarding the consultation on proposals to
introduce temperature limits on livestock transport. I apologise for the delay in responding
Defra is currently dealing with high volumes of correspondence due to COVID-19. Thank
you for your understanding during this challenging time.
The Government is committed to the welfare of all animals and to making further
improvements to animal welfare in transport now that we have left the EU.
Scotland’s Rural College and the University of Edinburgh conducted a systematic review
of scientific research on the welfare of animals during transport and at markets. Evidence
from the systematic review fed into consideration by Defra’s expert committee - the Farm
Animal Welfare Committee – and the consultation proposals where based on the
Committee’s report and recommendations on improving the welfare of animals during
transport.
Thermal conditions and ventilation are a key aspect of protecting animal welfare in
transport as extreme temperatures and poor ventilation can cause animal welfare issues to
arise. Animals being transported are at risk of welfare issues arising due to sudden or
severe changes in temperature, during very hot or very cold weather, and this can affect
mortality rates if internal temperatures inside the vehicles cannot be maintained. It should
be noted that the proposals in the consultation document do not affect short journeys
under 65km.
I am grateful to your constituent for taking the time to provide his views on this aspect of
the consultation.
RT HON GEORGE EUSTICE MP

 

[Highland Mule]

It should
be noted that the proposals in the consultation document do not affect short journeys
under 65km.

I don’t believe that was the case - @JP1?

 

[JP1]

Reply from George Eustice to Liam Fox MP, comments?

Dear Liam,
Our ref: MC2020/00408/DT
5 March 2021
Thank you for your email of 7 January 2021 on behalf of your constituent, ** ****** ****** , regarding the consultation on proposals to
introduce temperature limits on livestock transport. I apologise for the delay in responding
Defra is currently dealing with high volumes of correspondence due to COVID-19. Thank
you for your understanding during this challenging time.
The Government is committed to the welfare of all animals and to making further
improvements to animal welfare in transport now that we have left the EU.
Scotland’s Rural College and the University of Edinburgh conducted a systematic review
of scientific research on the welfare of animals during transport and at markets. Evidence
from the systematic review fed into consideration by Defra’s expert committee - the Farm
Animal Welfare Committee – and the consultation proposals where based on the
Committee’s report and recommendations on improving the welfare of animals during
transport.
Thermal conditions and ventilation are a key aspect of protecting animal welfare in
transport as extreme temperatures and poor ventilation can cause animal welfare issues to
arise. Animals being transported are at risk of welfare issues arising due to sudden or
severe changes in temperature, during very hot or very cold weather, and this can affect
mortality rates if internal temperatures inside the vehicles cannot be maintained. It should
be noted that the proposals in the consultation document do not affect short journeys
under 65km.
I am grateful to your constituent for taking the time to provide his views on this aspect of
the consultation.
RT HON GEORGE EUSTICE MP

What a disgrace

1. Welfare is welfare no matter 1km or 1000km
2. The review of the SRUC 2018 report should have one conclusion : "more research needed and we'll equivocate in the meantime"
3. I cannot comment on poultry but the DOA stats should show ambient temperatures have little impact on livestock in transit with appropriate ventilation and bedding
4. The DEFRA consultation does not mention control of internal temperature only an embargo on movement outwith 5-30 degrees ambient.

That is an absolutely shocking , shallow and inept reply. Are we really sure he's from a farming background ?

I would imagine Liam Fox's constituent was left equally amazed and underwhelmed

 

[JP1]

I don’t believe that was the case - @JP1?

It was raised with the wonks in DEFRA and stated that it applied to ALL journeys. This is what is written in the consultation document too

Really, it is shocking how much misinformation is being put about and now by the supposed Captain of the ship

 

[Raider112]

So when your cattle are booked into the abattoir a week in advance how are they supposed to control throughput when a change in the weather can cause chaos?
If only they hadn't driven all the local abattoirs out of business, forcing our livestock into journeys of over 65km to slaughter.