Another BBC article Biased against farming.

Longlowdog

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Aberdeenshire
Surely the whole concept of modern payments is to permit the base price of foods to remain low before countless middlemen put their margin on it? Quite simply how much would the price of food at farm gate have to rise in order to offset the contribution made by payments?
 
Surely the whole concept of modern payments is to permit the base price of foods to remain low before countless middlemen put their margin on it? Quite simply how much would the price of food at farm gate have to rise in order to offset the contribution made by payments?
Subsidies are no longer linked to production. Haven't been for years.

They are paid to landowners to make them feel better. Simple as that. Price of food is immaterial and may as well be linked to the phases of the moon.

Subsidies need to end, and quickly, too so that this 'pretend' farming stops.
 

Longlowdog

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Aberdeenshire
I don't claim them. Can't stand the boo-rocrasy and meddling. But I feel if the BBC is going to say something it should be fair, balanced and not appear to be written by a vegan cockwomble with an attitude problem.
Not paid for production is not the same as paid to keep the base price of commodities low before middle men.
 
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Devon
I was feeling rather indignant on first reading it but can't see too much wrong with it having read it again more slowly.
It is a pretty good appraisee of where we are and how we got here it is just the insinuation towards the end that money should be steered away from evil farmers towards altruistic environmentalists, that is flawed.
If anything, it shows how good farmers have always been at following the policies that have been put in place. It is not our fault if that have been wrong.
The policy required now is one that combines production with environmental benefit.
Premium's for grain grown in fields with fallow margins and for meat from farms with low density stocking etc.
 

Tim W

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Location
Wiltshire
Subsidies have absolutely nothing to do with production or the price of food. They are a land owning subsidy, and need to go as soon as possible.
Correct---price of lamb/beef/grain is set by supply/demand on an international market
Land based payments are immoral and have no place in UK , they simply reward people for owning land

The land owners know this and find it difficult to defend criticism
Farmers who own their land are confused about this as they always thought they were being paid to ''maintain low food prices'' but at the moment with a world market to rely on the UK can go elsewhere for cheap food

I think that in the future the landowning dole will still be paid but at a lesser rate and with slightly better returns for taxpayers
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Correct---price of lamb/beef/grain is set by supply/demand on an international market
Land based payments are immoral and have no place in UK , they simply reward people for owning land

The land owners know this and find it difficult to defend criticism
Farmers who own their land are confused about this as they always thought they were being paid to ''maintain low food prices'' but at the moment with a world market to rely on the UK can go elsewhere for cheap food

I think that in the future the landowning dole will still be paid but at a lesser rate and with slightly better returns for taxpayers
Land owning farmers think they are being paid for some kind of noble deed, I fact it just keeps loads of useless businesses afloat and some kids in private school. I rent a lot of land and the money goes straight back to the land owner in the rent.
 

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