antibiotic failures appeals

montys

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Livestock Farmer
Location
stoke on trent
cow cut teat had ubro red milked in dump bucket day 12 went in by missstake delvo test tank cow and tank sample to dairy hauler how delvo to cow failed my tank passed and all so the hailer but after collection the load sample from my tank nmr lab produced a failer . is nmr using the same test ,if not why buy delvo test .any help from you will be helpful
 

frederick

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Location
south west
cow cut teat had ubro red milked in dump bucket day 12 went in by missstake delvo test tank cow and tank sample to dairy hauler how delvo to cow failed my tank passed and all so the hailer but after collection the load sample from my tank nmr lab produced a failer . is nmr using the same test ,if not why buy delvo test .any help from you will be helpful
Don't know where you stand with the fact that the tank passed with haulier but failed on nmr.
However legally you were probably a fail on the previous 12 days as well. Ubro red is a 35 day withdrawal. It doesn't make any difference that you didn't milk the treated quarter she was still legally a 35 day milk withold on the other 3 quarters.

I would quietly accept the failure and do something different next time. Unfortunately what you were doing was plain wrong.
 

TheRanger

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Location
SW Scotland
Don't know where you stand with the fact that the tank passed with haulier but failed on nmr.
However legally you were probably a fail on the previous 12 days as well. Ubro red is a 35 day withdrawal. It doesn't make any difference that you didn't milk the treated quarter she was still legally a 35 day milk withold on the other 3 quarters.

I would quietly accept the failure and do something different next time. Unfortunately what you were doing was plain wrong.
It sound like all 4 were milked into dump bucket day 1-11 and on day 4 she went into the bulk tank by mistake
 
Only if you accept that cow has a 35 day milk withdrawal on all 4 quarters. And ubro red is only for use on a dry cow.
The correct treatment should be a milking cow tube not milked out for a week or more.
You can try that, but I doubt it would last a week, plus you're just going to keep messing putting yet another tube up and not giving it a chance to heal.
 
So you would use an ubro red and dump the other quarters for 35 days to have a 50% chance of saving a teat
Unfortunately I have been milking cows for 54 years, I know what works for me, every damaged teat can only be treated as as an individual, none are the same, but I do know you'll lose more quarter's messing than if you leave them to heal, perhaps that's why you only give them a fifty percent chance, perhaps you don't know it all.(but I doubt)
 

frederick

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Location
south west
Unfortunately I have been milking cows for 54 years, I know what works for me, every damaged teat can only be treated as as an individual, none are the same, but I do know you'll lose more quarter's messing than if you leave them to heal, perhaps that's why you only give them a fifty percent chance, perhaps you don't know it all.(but I doubt)
The incorrect use of antibiotics unfortunately is a demonstration of the reason we unfortunately need things like arla 360 so our supermarkets and customers can have trust in us.

If you can show me the page in your herd health plan signed off by your vet that recommends the use of a dry cow tube for a cut teat I will apologise.
Otherwise all drugs should only be used as detailed in the health plan or under the direct recommendation of a vet.
 

bar718

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The incorrect use of antibiotics unfortunately is a demonstration of the reason we unfortunately need things like arla 360 so our supermarkets and customers can have trust in us.

If you can show me the page in your herd health plan signed off by your vet that recommends the use of a dry cow tube for a cut teat I will apologise.
Otherwise all drugs should only be used as detailed in the health plan or under the direct recommendation of a vet.
You are totally correct and the misuse of antibiotics like using a dry cow tube in a lactating cow unless under direct vet supervision is what will lead to us not being allowed to administer antibiotics ourselves without a vet being present. It’s a very risky gamble that some are happy to take, one that we will end up paying for.
 

Scholsey

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Location
Herefordshire
NML use a far more sensitive test than what we have available, almost no point in using a different test yourself, find where nearest NML lab is and get in the car next time, hauliers might aswell not bother having a test anymore.
 

Bald n Grumpy

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Livestock Farmer
Had a problem a few years ago and spoke to various companies about AB test kits. Unless they've changed since then none of them pick up all AB and some will pass a sample that others will fail .
 

The Happy Herdsman

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Wirral
So you knowingly milked a suspect cow (cut teat should be obvious to identify in the pit) into the tank and still let the milk leave the farm?! These are the facts before we go into the whys and wherefores of using off licence treatments. Next time pull the plug, take the hit and hopefuly learn a lesson from it!
HH
 
So you knowingly milked a suspect cow (cut teat should be obvious to identify in the pit) into the tank and still let the milk leave the farm?! These are the facts before we go into the whys and wherefores of using off licence treatments. Next time pull the plug, take the hit and hopefuly learn a lesson from it!
HH

'Off license' effectively means the manufacturer is saying: 'this one is on you pal- don't come crying to us if it goes wrong' and so it is not for the unwary and certainly not something people should do without advice from their vet. If in doubt, dump the milk from an individual animal, I know some buyers are becoming very hot on AB milk failures these days.
 

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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