Anton Coaker: Urban disconnect

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
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How has the yawning chasm of disconnect between Joe Public and the farming industry opened so wide? As kids, we used to joke about city kids who didn’t know what a cow looked like, or that crops grew in the ground. Oh how we chortled when a mischievous farmer would assure holidaying city tykes, as amused parents looked on, that milk grew in bottles, on plants, and that the empties had to be returned as seed for next year’s crop- although even as I type, I realise how it dates me talking about daily doorstep pinta deliveries.

But now, the disconnect is nearly total. There’s no grasp that the very foundation of human civilisation is farming, and that without it, there simply would not be- could not be- 7.6 billion of us. Without farming there would be practically no separate career paths, no technology, factories or cities. A reliable source of food, produced en masse, at the expense of whatever else might want to exist on that land, is the very fabric of how civilisation works. Yet huge slices of population and culture are blind to it.

‘Special interest groups’ loudly decry whatever it is that exercises them about food production/diet/land use, ignorant of the intricate supply systems that give them the opportunity to whinge. Whole populations occupy themselves with whatever concerns them, unaware of what enables them to do so.

I had an epiphany moment backalong, if long term readers will indulge me for a moment. In 2011, a series of riots erupted across UK cities in late summer, just before my family and I were due to visit London. As we trundled up the A303, we passed the teams clearing the cereal harvest off the chalk downs, and I clocked a subtle change from years past. Where teams used to be spaced perhaps a mile apart, now they were much fewer in number, and were now maybe two miles apart, using ever larger gear. Where access allowed, articulated tipper lorries waited on the side of tracks, loading corn straight from the monster combines. Noting this, we trundled onward toward a city where the smoke was still rising. It felt – to a visiting country mouse- that 10 million people had been squabbling over a looted mobile phone, blissfully unaware of the handful of dusty tractor drivers making it all possible. All of it.

With a vaguely professional interest, I’m following the rants of on-line activists –and there’s a contradiction in terms if I ever heard one-, spouting forth on the social media about what’s wrong with my industry…from a position of almost absolute ignorance. And when the mainstream media venture beyond the reach of street lights, their depth of understanding is that of a kiddie’s paddling pool, unless it’s to film the secret life of the Warty Scrattle Finch. I’ve mentioned I’m approached fairly often with requests to photograph/film either - inexplicably- me, or the unkempt sprawling ranch under my booted feet, which I generally gently decline.

One outfit- the Beebs frontline primetime ‘countryside’ programme- asked again backalong, and were perplexed when I ventured that they would have to pay for my time. Their staff are all being paid, and the star of the show is alleged to be very well paid indeed, but apparently my input ought to be for free. It would be a privilege to appear, seemingly. I’ve previously tried explaining that I do what I do for a living, but the disconnect is such that they don’t see it.

Oh, I know I ought to be more accommodating, and try and get an honest message across –instead of leaving it to those with outside funding and agendas, or a naïve belief that appearing is indeed a privilege. But whenever I see the odd bit of the show, I’m hardly instilled with any faith of an honest portrayal making the edit. Seemingly the urban viewing public want more of the fluffy bunnies skipping in the hedgerows, but less of the grubby reality. Ironically, said on-line activists shout likewise, assured that the ‘truth’ would be too unpalatable. And to that I’m inclined to suggest that ‘the truth is indeed out there, the lies are in your head’.

I don’t know, and to a great extent, don’t care overly much either. I’m merely an observer. I realise my grasp of the problems facing our increasingly urbanised species –and the graph is very clear…we prefer living in vast human hives- make me some kind of dinosaur. I’m happy enough to share the reflections I see from my place amongst my beasts, and know some of you see things similarly, but I’m afraid we’re hardly even speaking the same language any more.

Hmm. I’d better shuffle off. The Galloways are calving like the clappers.

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Anton's articles are syndicated exclusively by TFF by kind permission of the author and WMN.

Anton also writes regularly for the Dartmoor Magazine and the NFU

He has published two books; the second "The Complete Bullocks" is still in print

http://www.anton-coaker.co.uk/book.htm
 

pycoed

Member
Why is it that some farmers seem so insistent that the 'general public' have an in depth knowledge of farming and criticise anyone who doesn't?
Speaking as not a farmer, it's not that they don't have an "in depth" knowledge: it's that they are completely ignorant of any of the issues of modern farming. The greater worry is that the iota of knowledge they do have is derived from such luminaries as Chris Packham, Brian May, George Monbiot et al
 

graham99

Member
a strong community make's it hard for the poli's to get their way.
but if we are all fighting with each other .
we don't care what the poli is saying ,as the only thing we care about is our team winning
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Why is it that some farmers seem so insistent that the 'general public' have an in depth knowledge of farming and criticise anyone who doesn't?
He is not insisting that they do.... but

he can see as we all (?) can ... that the gap of any knowledge ( let alone indepth) in producing the food that is fundimental to peoples lives is huge ...and has been for awhile of course.

there would be better World and Communities if they did tho, dont you think?

no good wasting time worrying about it tho i guess..
 

bluebell

Member
Simple problem, strength in numbers, not enough people involved in farming, if their was a lot more people on smaller holdings trying to make a living, as a apposed to hobby farmers and big multi farmed farms farmed by one person the voice of farming would be heard more, when i grew up like all my generation, the vast majority who lived in the village if they didnt work in farming had a connection? Look at that book about a village called Akensfield i think about a village how its changed from 50 yrs ago to now.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
He is not insisting that they do.... but

he can see as we all (?) can ... that the gap of any knowledge ( let alone indepth) in producing the food that is fundimental to peoples lives is huge ...and has been for awhile of course.

there would be better World and Communities if they did tho, dont you think?

no good wasting time worrying about it tho i guess..

Yes I agree there's a huge lack of knowledge from anyone outside of agriculture into what really goes on and you'd think people would take more of an interest in something so important but that's true of ALL professions which may or may be considered important.
The outside expert claiming they can "fix things" isn't unique to agriculture either, just look at this forum and how many people claim they could sought out the police, NHS, council and a dozen other professions without having a clue what goes on inside them.
Its sad that people don't take an interest or have any understanding of others and a huge mistake (in my opinion) that governments seem to be ignoring food producers in favour of other groups because they think there's more votes in it but I don't really see it changing any time soon, as you say no good wasting time worrying about it.
 

Woolly

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Location
W Wales
... I don't really see it changing any time soon, as you say no good wasting time worrying about it.
There's quite a lot we can do about it.

Educating the public on farming life should be a mission for all of us.

If every year, we each welcome 100people onto our farm, through holiday lets, Open sundays, school visits etc and they talk to another 100 people, that's 200/yr, 2000 folk over 10 years.

If all famers did that, farming would get a better press and better politics.
 

joe soapy

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Location
devon
With tongue firmly in cheek, Why should we worry about what the townies think?
As food producers we seem obsessed with with persuading the masses to buy what we produce
When the reality is that without food they die even though they may have the latest iphone or posh kitchen
 

Woolly

Member
Location
W Wales
Like the latest iPhone or kitchen, 'townies' food doesn't have to be British. Indeed half of it isn't.

UK farmers need to market their produce and that includes persuading townies it's better.

Not to mention that townies contribute £millions to agriculture through subsidies.
 
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Raider112

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Like the latest iPhone or kitchen, 'townies' food doesn't have to be British. Indeed 50% of it isn't.

UK farmers need to market their produce and that includes persuading townies it's better.

Not to mention that townies contribute £millions to agriculture through subsidies.
Maybe we're going the wrong way here, 30 years ago any farmer who worked hard could make a good living but now we are constantly told to produce what the public wants in a way that they want us to do it through regulation, assurance schemes etc but we are mainly living below the poverty line. If the public want what we are told they want, how about they start to pay the going rate, as they do for everything else they buy? Otherwise let them pay peanuts and let us farm properly rather than as we are told we should be doing. The idea of continuously telling them how good our produce is gets ticks in the survey boxes but mean nothing to them in the cold light of day and simply hasn't worked for us as it all comes off our bottom line and nowhere else.
 

ski

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Plenty of us involved in farming have little or no understanding of the lives, issues and concerns of millions of urban city dwellers, and many probably don't want to know either so why do we think that they should know about our situation? Our society is being divided into, for want a better term 'specialisations' that are increasingly more disconnected from each other in any any meaningful way, and this, despite communication being easier than ever before. Is there not a slightly condescending attitude toward that urban rump?, the rump that still provides the majority of our income.
 

joe soapy

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Location
devon
Just bluesky thinking.
could sell all the stock, sell most of the machinery and clear a big part of borrowings,
Pension would pay bills with a bit to spare. could easily grow enough veg for 2 of us, we have sea fishing on our boundary, fresh water fishing,
3 varieties of venison on farm, wild duck and goose a plenty, more than enough room for a herd of feral goats and pigs.
By letting the farm go wild i would become a much admired shining example to a large majority of the population.

The prospect gets more attractive by the day. I dont think i am alone in thinking this way
 

Hilly

Member
Just bluesky thinking.
could sell all the stock, sell most of the machinery and clear a big part of borrowings,
Pension would pay bills with a bit to spare. could easily grow enough veg for 2 of us, we have sea fishing on our boundary, fresh water fishing,
3 varieties of venison on farm, wild duck and goose a plenty, more than enough room for a herd of feral goats and pigs.
By letting the farm go wild i would become a much admired shining example to a large majority of the population.

The prospect gets more attractive by the day. I dont think i am alone in thinking this way
You are not alone, big step no going back.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Some still dont get it :rolleyes:
Just bluesky thinking.
could sell all the stock, sell most of the machinery and clear a big part of borrowings,
Pension would pay bills with a bit to spare. could easily grow enough veg for 2 of us, we have sea fishing on our boundary, fresh water fishing,
3 varieties of venison on farm, wild duck and goose a plenty, more than enough room for a herd of feral goats and pigs.
By letting the farm go wild i would become a much admired shining example to a large majority of the population.

The prospect gets more attractive by the day. I dont think i am alone in thinking this way

Thats what ive thought a few times, just grow /keep our own enough to live by, for the family.
 

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