Any ideas whats up

Adeptandy

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Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
Is it just me or is there more trash/dead cover on the surface where the crop's worse? Perhaps if it had been sprayed off over Christmas so the green had broken down more, or wasn't in the process of doing so whilst the seed was germinating?
Its the opposite, where the cover was the thickest then the crop established better and seems to be more forward.
 

Badshot

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Location
Kent
Don’t think that’s the issue as virtually every seed grew in the S Barley, and the slots also look ok in the beans. It does look like the seed hasn’t chitted in the poorer stands in places. Still covered and have to dig it out to find it ?
Moisture available?
I planted linseed Easter Monday.
1 week prior I disced some ditch spoil to level it out, and also the tramlines as they were getting quite rough.
When drilling the tramlines seemed dry, huge cloud of dust, yet they came up first and fastest.
Can't explain it.
Neighbours field half a mile away was cultivated , lovely fine seedbed, it's been very slow coming.
 
I'm most suprised by the difference of your beans, but I guess you've had close to our conditions this winter that has lead to poor structure and low temperatures in soil. Soils have been plastic and hard to create tilth and good seed to soil contact with a direct drill. It has also lead to painfully low amounts of mineralized N, which might be an indicator of overall microbial activity. The ways of nature to create good soil structure that we rely on with direct drilling has been sabotaged by... nature.. this winter.
Would be interesting to see if there are differences to nodulation on the bean roots. And what has happened to the seedlings that has not showed up? There has been a lot of slugs here this spring which is very unusual.
 
Sprayed off before, but still green when drilling.

Now then. This can make a big difference. Esp for barley in my experience.

Also in my opinion you drilled too deep. I did in 2018 and lost of barley vigour.

Spring barley can be a tricky sod. My experience is best to spray off stubbles early and have no grass/ cereals in stubbles. I also think barley does well enough quite shallow - volunteer barley thrives as a surface sown plant. Beans on the other hand tend to go in about 4-5 inches with me and I spray the nirvana and roundup a week after drilling and I don't mind a decent cover

You have various choices now. You can decide direct drilling doesn't work and run away from trying new ideas or you can work your way through it over time and build your experience to get it a bit better each year. Keep doing some tillage until you get confident.
 
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YELROM

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Location
North Yorkshire
Now then. This can make a big difference. Esp for barley in my experience.

Also in my opinion you drilled too deep. I did in 2018 and lost of barley vigour.

Spring barley can be a tricky sod. My experience is best to spray off stubbles early and have no grass/ cereals in stubbles. I also think barley does well enough quite shallow - volunteer barley thrives as a surface sown plant. Beans on the other hand tend to go in about 4-5 inches with me and I spray the nirvana and roundup a week after drilling and I don't mind a decent cover

You have various choices now. You can decide direct drilling doesn't work and run away from trying new ideas or you can work your way through it over time and build your experience to get it a bit better each year. Keep doing some tillage until you get confident.
Not all your post is showing unless you click on it to reply :scratchhead:
 

Adeptandy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
Now then. This can make a big difference. Esp for barley in my experience.

Also in my opinion you drilled too deep. I did in 2018 and lost of barley vigour.

Spring barley can be a tricky sod. My experience is best to spray off stubbles early and have no grass/ cereals in stubbles. I also think barley does well enough quite shallow - volunteer barley thrives as a surface sown plant. Beans on the other hand tend to go in about 4-5 inches with me and I spray the nirvana and roundup a week after drilling and I don't mind a decent cover

You have various choices now. You can decide direct drilling doesn't work and run away from trying new ideas or you can work your way through it over time and build your experience to get it a bit better each year. Keep doing some tillage until you get confident.
The only reason I went deep with the seed was to hit moisture and stand a chance at establishment. Not giving up, still think its the way to go. (y)
 

Case290

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Worcestershire
Got exactly the same here with a different drill where there was a bit of cover It’s not come properly. It’s lack of moisture or spray. Not todo with the drill.
 

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