Any non uk farmers

[snipe]

Please could any farmers not in the uk please tell me if to sell their grain do they need to be members of any assurance scheme.

please tag any non uk forum members to this post please
@Blaithin, hope you don’t mine me taging you. I believe you work in the Canadian grain trade, do farmer in Canada have to be members of an assurance scheme

 

[Al R]

@Farmer Roy @Kiwi Pete @TelesnaAg

 

[Doc]

Might be worth researching these guys @snipe.

Australian Grain Export

www.australiangrainexport.com.au

I’ve emailed my brother to ask (wheat and Barley). I’m out of the loop these days with on farm processes but thought all quality control occurred at depot.
@Farmer Roy are you familiar with the processes of quality assurance?

 

[Blaithin]

Please could any farmers not in the uk please tell me if to sell their grain do they need to be members of any assurance scheme.

please tag any non uk forum members to this post please
@Blaithin, hope you don’t mine me taging you. I believe you work in the Canadian grain trade, do farmer in Canada have to be members of an assurance scheme

No, farmers here don’t need to be. I can’t even think of anything they’d be members for. Some will grow more niche products, like organic, or not use certain spraysto chase a premium but I don’t believe they need to be members of anything to do so.

Currently farmers are being asked to contribute to a national Grain Code. However it’s supposed to be voluntary, not membership drive.

To sell grain here you just need to sign a contract and haul in the grain.

 

[snipe]

No, farmers here don’t need to be. I can’t even think of anything they’d be members for. Some will grow more niche products, like organic, or not use certain spraysto chase a premium but I don’t believe they need to be members of anything to do so.

Currently farmers are being asked to contribute to a national Grain Code. However it’s supposed to be voluntary, not membership drive.

To sell grain here you just need to sign a contract and haul in the grain.

Thank you

 

[Al R]

No, farmers here don’t need to be. I can’t even think of anything they’d be members for. Some will grow more niche products, like organic, or not use certain spraysto chase a premium but I don’t believe they need to be members of anything to do so.

Currently farmers are being asked to contribute to a national Grain Code. However it’s supposed to be voluntary, not membership drive.

To sell grain here you just need to sign a contract and haul in the grain.

Are there assurance schemes for being organically certified etc? Can they swap in and out of organic and conventional every other year or every few years like Russia/Ukraine etc?

 

[Grass And Grain]

I'm presuming we get milling wheat from Canada. Do you work for the grain trade @Blaithin if you don't mind me asking?

Good thread @snipe

 

[Blaithin]

Are there assurance schemes for being organically certified etc? Can they swap in and out of organic and conventional every other year or every few years like Russia/Ukraine etc?

I don’t know all the criteria for organic. To my understanding they wouldn’t have to be members consistently but if they used products not organically approved they’d have to wait some thing like 10 years to be able to be certified again.

 

[Blaithin]

I'm presuming we get milling wheat from Canada. Do you work for the grain trade @Blaithin if you don't mind me asking?

Good thread @snipe

Yes, I work in an elevator.

 

[Al R]

I don’t know all the criteria for organic. To my understanding they wouldn’t have to be members consistently but if they used products not organically approved they’d have to wait some thing like 10 years to be able to be certified again.

I wonder what they can use here it’s got to be serious to get anything to spray with but it wouldn’t be a standard pesticide the conventional guys can use - I don’t put anything on mine but I know the livestock side is covered with animal welfare if a vet signs it off etc..

 

[Kiwi Pete]

@Farmer Roy @Kiwi Pete @TelesnaAg

Thanks for the tag... really out of my line of work but I don't think so it's all subject to the contract you sign with your buyer AFAIK.

There is so much grass and so little grain, plus it's only maybe fed to dairy or a grain company as far as as the livestock angle goes.
(We're looking at a high farmgate price here compared to most of the globe and low livestock values)

These mean that growers are generally contracted to processing companies directly and they will take the place of a farm assurance scam

 

[Wisconsonian]

Organic will be certified by a third party organic certification, such as Oregon Tilth. They will have to maintain paperwork similar to the assurance schemes you're talking about, as far as I can tell about yours. They can farm organically and conventionally on different plots, just have to keep better records and not mix it up.

No assurance that I've ever heard of for conventional grain producers. Selling eggs, butchered meats, baked goods above a limit will require a licensed kitchen in most cases, that varies by state somewhat. Selling milk wholesale requires a dairy permit, and inspections annually or so.

 

[Bury the Trash]

seems like its just us mug's then

 

[Cowcorn]

Im in Ireland and though i joined a grain assurance scheme back in the early noughties i let it lapse after a few years . The chicken sh!t got to be a pain and the promised premuim never really showed up .
No bother selling grain either as we are net importers maybe that helps.
I only grow feed grains so cant really comment on the malting barley sector . The Bord Bia quality Assurance for the Dairy is getting to be a pain but no assurance no milk buyer so im caught their .

 

[Banana Bar]

No, farmers here don’t need to be. I can’t even think of anything they’d be members for. Some will grow more niche products, like organic, or not use certain spraysto chase a premium but I don’t believe they need to be members of anything to do so.

Currently farmers are being asked to contribute to a national Grain Code. However it’s supposed to be voluntary, not membership drive.

To sell grain here you just need to sign a contract and haul in the grain.

Well don’t let them get any silly ideas about signing up to a grain code!

 

[czechmate]

I sell grain to the coop (in France) without any assurance scheme. It goes as feed though, I don’t know if you need to be in a scheme to sell milling wheat.
When we came, we weren’t in a scheme to sell to the abattoir, my wife signed us up, and it does seem to be at the point where we couldn’t sell without .

 

[Blaithin]

What are the assurance schemes assuring?

 

[czechmate]

What are the assurance schemes assuring?

Oh my word!!!!

A simple example, to get through, I used to keep (or make up on the day before inspection) a diary...
AS grain trailer cleaned 18 may
For everything you could possibly think of

 

[Blaithin]

Oh my word!!!!

A simple example, to get through, I used to keep (or make up on the day before inspection) a diary...
AS grain trailer cleaned 18 may
For everything you could possibly think of

You need a scheme to verify last loads hauled?

 

[Steevo]

seems like its just us mug's then

....and sadly this shows that RT is utterly worthless on any exported wheat or barley.