Any tenants applying for SFI?

[Red Fred]

After an introductory talk last week and Janet Hughes' webinar ,I'm looking at our options and pondering where to go with it, how it will affect rents and also fulfil the requirements of my tenancy.
I have 160 acres on an AHA tenancy, half is tillable but half is flower rich floodplain which suddenly seems a very valuable option.
As I near retirement, a 3 year scheme would suit me very well, but I'm wondering how other tenants are going on before I stick my head above the parapet. If I was a large landowner, I would be desperately looking at ways to take back all I could or jack the rent up due to the potential payments whether the tenant took up the options or not.

 

[paul&mandy]

After an introductory talk last week and Janet Hughes' webinar ,I'm looking at our options and pondering where to go with it, how it will affect rents and also fulfil the requirements of my tenancy.
I have 160 acres on an AHA tenancy, half is tillable but half is flower rich floodplain which suddenly seems a very valuable option.
As I near retirement, a 3 year scheme would suit me very well, but I'm wondering how other tenants are going on before I stick my head above the parapet. If I was a large landowner, I would be desperately looking at ways to take back all I could or jack the rent up due to the potential payments whether the tenant took up the options or not.

For sfi you don't need to ask your landlords permission. How will they know what your claiming or is there an online map like stewardship?

 

[Billboy1]

they can't jack rents up on the back of sfi they need reducing we are being hoodwinked we've lost 80 pound/a in sub i reminded my agent about that last week !

 

[bobk]

After an introductory talk last week and Janet Hughes' webinar ,I'm looking at our options and pondering where to go with it, how it will affect rents and also fulfil the requirements of my tenancy.
I have 160 acres on an AHA tenancy, half is tillable but half is flower rich floodplain which suddenly seems a very valuable option.
As I near retirement, a 3 year scheme would suit me very well, but I'm wondering how other tenants are going on before I stick my head above the parapet. If I was a large landowner, I would be desperately looking at ways to take back all I could or jack the rent up due to the potential payments whether the tenant took up the options or not.

Go for it Fred if it suits

 

[Billboy1]

another unintended consequence of sfi older tenants can just carry on in wildflowers thus stifling new entrants you really couldn't make it up

 

[bobk]

another unintended consequence of sfi older tenants can just carry on in wildflowers thus stifling new entrants you really couldn't make it up

Plenty of land available , all you have to do is bid for it

 

[Billboy1]

Plenty of land available , all you have to do is bid for

Plenty of land available , all you have to do is bid for it

On aha ?

 

[Hindsight]

Plenty of land available , all you have to do is bid for it

Defra is bidding strongly.

 

[som farmer]

we rent, on our main holding, we will max SFI, we graze herbal leys already, so that's easy decision, the less productive ground, nectar rich, flowers, winter bird cover etc etc.

meeting with another l/lord, who claims SFP on that block of grassland, next week, to work out the best SFI for both of us.

another 2 blocks of away ground, nearly worked them out !

and l shan't feel guilty about reducing production, if they want more production, they can damn well pay more for it. We are not appreciated, drowning in regulations, and underpaid.

so, up theirs, and make the most of SFI while its still here, to be taken, or as they say, make hay when the sun shines.

 

[Mc115reed]

I rent roughly 1500-2000 acres in various different capacities and literally every single acre of it is on a word of mouth agreement with nothing on paper or guaranteed past tomorrow .. so I guess I can’t do f**k all with sfi either be nice if they brought out something that gave me some free money for a change

 

[glasshouse]

After an introductory talk last week and Janet Hughes' webinar ,I'm looking at our options and pondering where to go with it, how it will affect rents and also fulfil the requirements of my tenancy.
I have 160 acres on an AHA tenancy, half is tillable but half is flower rich floodplain which suddenly seems a very valuable option.
As I near retirement, a 3 year scheme would suit me very well, but I'm wondering how other tenants are going on before I stick my head above the parapet. If I was a large landowner, I would be desperately looking at ways to take back all I could or jack the rent up due to the potential payments whether the tenant took up the options or not.

Capped payments will stop all that.

 

[Hindsight]

I rent roughly 1500-2000 acres in various different capacities and literally every single acre of it is on a word of mouth agreement with nothing on paper or guaranteed past tomorrow .. so I guess I can’t do f**k all with sfi either be nice if they brought out something that gave me some free money for a change

The land you rent - did you claim BPS on any or all of it in 2023 and previous years? Is the land linked to your SBI number.

 

[Mc115reed]

The land you rent - did you claim BPS on any or all of it in 2023 and previous years? Is the land linked to your SBI number.

Nope landlords all claim the bps

 

[Hindsight]

Nope landlords all claim the bps

Thanks for the reply. So you are in unfortunate position of not being in control of SFI. Have you had any discussions with BPS claimants to see if they are going to enter SFI and is there anyway you might benefit from reduced rent or some payment to adjust your sheep business to help them claim?

 

[Jon]

I am a tenant under aha.

I am seriously looking at flower options on land that needs draining, that I cannot afford to do yet.
Legumes option as the break crop possibly, taking out the risk of winter beans.

 

[Mc115reed]

Thanks for the reply. So you are in unfortunate position of not being in control of SFI. Have you had any discussions with BPS claimants to see if they are going to enter SFI and is there anyway you might benefit from reduced rent or some payment to adjust your sheep business to help them claim?

Quite a few of them are putting them into sfi and telling me of things I might need too adhere too at the same rent price Definatly no intentions of a reduction