Anybody considering suspending production for a year?

[kiwi pom]

Aye

Going to tell the 1000 ewes here to hold in the lambs until spring 2023. The 80 sucklers and two dozen heifers have already agreed that the bulls can have a rest this summer. The cows are uncertain whether they'll be able to squeeze out 400kg offspring in 10 months time, but hey ho, we've all got to do our bit in such strange times

I guess it'll be much harder for the cereal boys to suspend production, but with the previous Covid travel restrictions, they'll be getting used to fewer holidays abroad?

Seriously, what a bloody stupid thread to create

You can't do much about pregnant stock, just like an arable farmer is unlikely to walk away from already planted winter crops, but after lambing and calving you can make decisions for the next 12 months. Its not exactly unheard of for farmers to sell breeding stock and just run youngstock for a year.

 

[zero]

With fertilizer prices up where they are I can't see the point in growing crops on the fields that struggle if the weather turns against me. Think I'll grass them down and keep the sucklers more extensively. Grow just enough spring barley for feed and bedding.

 

[spin cycle]

Sorry. Ballsed up the choices. Can’t seem to delete them.
Should just be yes or no.

 

[Grass And Grain]

EU intervention scheme might muddy the waters.

 

[ajd132]

EU intervention scheme might muddy the waters.

Is this the extra 500 million? It’s basically a complete pittance in the grand scheme of the CAP total budget and isn’t even worth thinking about IMO. (If that’s what your talking about)

 

[Grass And Grain]

Is this the extra 500 million? It’s basically a complete pittance in the grand scheme of the CAP total budget and isn’t even worth thinking about IMO. (If that’s what your talking about)

Not sure. Seem to think I saw somethin saying EU were to reintroduce intervention, presumably to out a bottom in the grain price so farmers had confidence to purchase expensive N.

Quick Google and I can't find anything. Maybe it was just a post on TFF. Is it true? Not sure.

 

[ewald]

I am going to look at Input prices and future wheat prices this autumn; based on this I may not drill any wheat - I anticipate drilling sugar beet and malting barley in the spring.

The much discussed issues of very high input prices versus unknown/falling commodity prices (plus the need for a lot more working capital) could make next year a financially dangerous time for many of us.

 

[ewald]

Aye

Going to tell the 1000 ewes here to hold in the lambs until spring 2023. The 80 sucklers and two dozen heifers have already agreed that the bulls can have a rest this summer. The cows are uncertain whether they'll be able to squeeze out 400kg offspring in 10 months time, but hey ho, we've all got to do our bit in such strange times

I guess it'll be much harder for the cereal boys to suspend production, but with the previous Covid travel restrictions, they'll be getting used to fewer holidays abroad?

Seriously, what a bloody stupid thread to create

While I appreciate the production cycle times of livestock producers, for the arable farmers (especially those without heavy fixed costs), this thread is entirely sensible - I have been giving serious thoughts to the issues for some time.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

A year out won't pay the rent luckily I don't have to either as I'm only an employee

 

[Nearly]

A year out won't pay the rent luckily I don't have to either as I'm only an employee

If boss says 'Do you fancy a year off?' tomorrow morning?

I know a man not serving suckler cows and weighing them all in in October.
Plough grass out and drill wheat, neighbour has 600 cows and desperate to get rid of slurry.
Jealous, not much!

 

[7610 super q]

Will have a think in the spring. Trouble is, a lot can happen to grain prices between April-September. As for renting out land... Just spent £50k getting rid of my last tenant.
Grass it down, and top it now and then with a Blue tractor and batwing topper.

 

[Jon 3085]

New season fertiliser prices will make a lot of people make their minds up whether to plant or not. I don’t fancy paying £28,000 for a lorry load.

 

[Nearly]

New season fertiliser prices will make a lot of people make their minds up whether to plant or not. I don’t fancy paying £28,000 for a lorry load.

Put expensive fert on barley 2 weeks ago as it looked so good.
Not sure I'd even take the plunge next autumn.

 

[Dry Rot]

Can you point me to your thread about fallow?

Thread? One post? It was just a question!

 

[tullah]

I never let money in year A subsidise losses in year B.

My profit from year A goes in same pot as loss from B

 

[Dry Rot]

The trouble with farming, if there's a shortage predicted, everyone will aim to supply it. Then, the Ukraine war will be over. Has the war really stopped farming on the entire country? Can't all be covered in land mines, surely?

 

[Muddyroads]

Not sure. Seem to think I saw somethin saying EU were to reintroduce intervention, presumably to out a bottom in the grain price so farmers had confidence to purchase expensive N.

Quick Google and I can't find anything. Maybe it was just a post on TFF. Is it true? Not sure.

This was probably a thread which started in the morning 2 days ago. I responded with a laughing emoji when I saw the date and haven’t seen it since.

 

[digger64]

I fully realise that stopping production on a livestock farm temporarily is impossible. But it would easily be possible for us as combinable crops producers and with ammonium nitrate recently offers at £1000 per tonne then carrying on looked like the bloody stupid option.
The purpose of the thread was a sort of protest to those (suppliers/ customers / regulators/ government) who think farmers will take any amount of sh!t and just carry on regardless.
We won’t.

Regarding your protest comment , I dont think the potential realities/consequences of the current outlook are even their radar -people generally appear to live in their own bubble .

 

[steveR]

I am going to look at Input prices and future wheat prices this autumn; based on this I may not drill any wheat - I anticipate drilling sugar beet and malting barley in the spring.

The much discussed issues of very high input prices versus unknown/falling commodity prices (plus the need for a lot more working capital) could make next year a financially dangerous time for many of us.

And the above, in a nutshell, is why the CAP came about!

European politicians at that time understood that farming is a business like no other, and to maintain food supplies to our populations, farmers needed consistency of income. Yo-Yo economics do not a stable supply, guarantee!!

 

[Grass And Grain]

This was probably a thread which started in the morning 2 days ago. I responded with a laughing emoji when I saw the date and haven’t seen it since.

Ah right, I see! I've been had. Couldn't quite remember where I'd read it, in what context, or the source. Couldn't quite remember if I'd dreamed it, but thought I had seen it somewhere.

No wonder Google couldn't help me @ajd132 . Looking like April 1st news.