Anybody NOT t2-ing, t1-ing etc because of frosts

[PSQ]

tedious Mg and K

As bittersaltz/Epsotop *and* bags of SoP in the same mix?

 

[John Slejpner]

As bittersaltz/Epsotop *and* bags of SoP in the same mix?

Yes but sometimes i treat myself to an IBC of mag nitrate

 

[PSQ]

Yes but sometimes i treat myself to an IBC of mag nitrate

I need to learn how to calculate solubility of 2 salts together. I’ve never mixed MgSO4 with SoP, always assumed with the low solubility of the SoP there wouldn’t be enough ‘room’ for the bittersaltz in the solution before saturation.
How much of each do you add?

 

[e3120]

Fandango + manganese + copper (as Mancuflo suspension) + Boudha (Ally Max) + CMPP + fluroxypyr. Beefy enough?

I'm sure you could slip a bit of moddus in there too

 

[John Slejpner]

I need to learn how to calculate solubility of 2 salts together. I’ve never mixed MgSO4 with SoP, always assumed with the low solubility of the SoP there wouldn’t be enough ‘room’ for the bittersaltz in the solution before saturation.
How much of each do you add?

You are right (i think), max solubility in this example is of the SO4. In 3000 litres 6 bags is enough practically speaking. Whatever ratio you want Mg/K.
Where i really want the K (no digestate) i have Mag Nitrate so K can go at 5+ kg /ha

 

[Brisel]

I'm sure you could slip a bit of moddus in there too

That would certainly slow the barley up if I could get the soup out of the nozzles

 

[Steevo]

Yes but sometimes i treat myself to an IBC of mag nitrate

How does sulphate of potash work out pricewise please?

Agronomist suggested liquid K, I hadn't thought there might be a solid alternative like Epsotop.

 

[Steevo]

That would certainly slow the barley up if I could get the soup out of the nozzles

Just use the fertiliser nozzles!

 

[Steevo]

Just trying to save a pass. I should probably do one of the herbicides and trace elements separately really.

You don't need to justify it to me - it just seemed too good an opportunity not to add some humour.

 

[PSQ]

How does sulphate of potash work out pricewise please?

I’d suggest using the Yara SoP as normal spreading grade takes an age to dissolve, and leaves a thick horrible grease like scum from the (presumably) kaolin clay anti caking agent.
Price:

How much should sulphate of potash be ?
Yara Krista sop.
Just been quoted £16.50/25kg bag.

 

[Steevo]

I’d suggest using the Yara SoP as normal spreading grade takes an age to dissolve, and leaves a thick horrible grease like scum from the (presumably) kaolin clay anti caking agent.
Price:

Thank you. What rates do people use?

Certainly looks better value than the liquid K foliar version that comes in a can. Not saying it's comparing like with like though.

 

[PSQ]

Thank you. What rates do people use?

Wheat:
SoP 5kg/ha in 100L at T1
Bittersaltz (EpsoTop) 5kg/Ha in 100L at T2

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/solubility_table
Click ‘contents’ to see solubility, g/100ml is the same as Kg/100L

 

[Sandy]

CMPP for fumitory. The SU isn’t that strong on it with 4 true leaves in places

Zypar will hammer fumitory

 

[Steevo]

Wheat:
SoP 5kg/ha in 100L at T1
Bittersaltz (EpsoTop) 5kg/Ha in 100L at T2

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/solubility_table
Click ‘contents’ to see solubility, g/100ml is the same as Kg/100L

Perfect, thank you.

 

[ollie989898]

I was more concerned about the SB and herbicide with these frosts about. Its not urgent-urgent. Decided not to be doing at mo, supposedly a little warmer next week. Also have some Foxtrot to go on, on the other - more backward - half of the SB.

Wheat should be hardy enough to withstand a splash of Starane?

Starane is pretty kind.

 

[ollie989898]

Fandango + manganese + copper (as Mancuflo suspension) + Boudha (Ally Max) + CMPP + fluroxypyr. Beefy enough?

Managnese and CMPP- you are braver than me... Is it a posh formulation?

 

[ollie989898]

I'm sure you could slip a bit of moddus in there too

Canopy!

 

[ollie989898]

I've done two of those three herbicides together to get the range of BLW, but never 3 at once! What is the third one doing that the other two can't get?

Ally and CMPP has been done for years, its the Starane I would leave out.

 

[Flat 10]

Ally and CMPP has been done for years, its the Starane I would leave out.

We leave out cmpp because we need trace elements

 

[Brisel]

Managnese and CMPP- you are braver than me... Is it a posh formulation?

YaraVita Mancuflo which is a suspension. CMPP and manganese chelate solution would be unlikely to leave the sprayer tank in anything other than a shovel.

Ally and CMPP has been done for years, its the Starane I would leave out.

With respect, the brew needs to be tailored to the weed spectrum. CMPP won't do large cleavers, fat hen and bindweed. See the attachment.

View attachment Sulfonylurea_Weed_sensitivity_chart_(Nautius)_Spring_2018.pdf