Anyone bothering with sclerotinia sprays?

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
No, was thinking of BYDV as an example.
Yeh I was thinking more septoria programs but take you’re point. I agree BYDV is very difficult, we havnt used deter for a few years and seem to be okay with only very limited spraying where we chickened out. Not sure if it was okay because everyone else had it on though?
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
You might be right but I don’t know what area you are in. If you were in the far SW you might view BYDV in a different light. There is no cure, only prevention. In this area the risk is VERY high.
Farming down you’re way sounds like a right pain to be honest!
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Yes, I don’t think it would suit you, your machinery or your lifestyle :p:LOL:
Even @Banana Bar feels sorry for me sometimes :ROFLMAO:
Never mind the Pheasant shooting is a whole lot better than up your way (y)(y)
You do have good pheasant shooting, but so does Suffolk. Suffolk is only a county one below Norfolk.

When you leave Norfolk, you leave the game behind!

But it’s mostly thanks to Sugar Beet IMO.
 

jonnyjon

Member
You might be right but I don’t know what area you are in. If you were in the far SW you might view BYDV in a different light. There is no cure, only prevention. In this area the risk is VERY high.
Have neighbors who have a lot of bydv despite the belt and braces approach
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Do you have a better idea for virus transmitted diseases where control of the vector is the only solution?

Define "control."

Repellency, immunity, camouflage (companion cropping), substitution of cropping for non susceptible ones, providing habitat for predators, avoiding emerged crops during peak aphid flight... all will reduce the impact of BYDV, even if it probably reduces the profitability of your winter wheat & farm...
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
Define "control."

Repellency, immunity, camouflage (companion cropping), substitution of cropping for non susceptible ones, providing habitat for predators, avoiding emerged crops during peak aphid flight... all will reduce the impact of BYDV, even if it probably reduces the profitability of your winter wheat & farm...

You used a lot of long words there :p:LOL:
Us is only simple folk down yer :whistle: Control = kill :p KISS (y)
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Define "control."

Repellency, immunity, camouflage (companion cropping), substitution of cropping for non susceptible ones, providing habitat for predators, avoiding emerged crops during peak aphid flight... all will reduce the impact of BYDV, even if it probably reduces the profitability of your winter wheat & farm...

An understanding that healthy plant need healthy soils and healthy plants get sick or predated less

Research shows connections between worm numbers and bydv and few better markers of soil health than worm numbers exist imo

Herbicides reduce brix making plants vulnerable etc ?

Lots of reasons many of which not understood or properly researched yet
 

jonnyjon

Member
An understanding that healthy plant need healthy soils and healthy plants get sick or predated less

Research shows connections between worm numbers and bydv and few better markers of soil health than worm numbers exist imo

Herbicides reduce brix making plants vulnerable etc ?

Lots of reasons many of which not understood or properly researched yet
Yes it's all about soil health IMO, fields are alive with ladybirds even when the weather was frosty and hash, could that be because of no insecticide use?? I would like to think so
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
You used a lot of long words there :p:LOL:
Us is only simple folk down yer :whistle: Control = kill :p KISS (y)

You're far smarter than I am! Better taste in cars too.

I was only trying to think around a problem rather than just seeing the loss of the main management methods used currently.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Back on topic, is anyone treating yet? Just started mine because high winds prevented that recently & since Easter the air temperatures have plummeted.
 
Back on topic, is anyone treating yet? Just started mine because high winds prevented that recently & since Easter the air temperatures have plummeted.

When I last looked spore counts were still low for our area. I bet on more rain than we got and with wind last week we did about half at the beginning of last week. Some at 0.5 l Proline and some at 0.4l. In hindsight it probably wasn't needed. Still green light on the latest AHDB risk report. Not going to do any more until we get a red light and by then the flowering might be over in most part.
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Back on topic, is anyone treating yet? Just started mine because high winds prevented that recently & since Easter the air temperatures have plummeted.
Patched the best bits today with 0.0 - 0.5L Proline, got more Proline left over than I thought I would. :(
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
When I last looked spore counts were still low for our area. I bet on more rain than we got and with wind last week we did about half at the beginning of last week. Some at 0.5 l Proline and some at 0.4l. In hindsight it probably wasn't needed. Still green light on the latest AHDB risk report. Not going to do any more until we get a red light and by then the flowering might be over in most part.

Will be interested if you see any MOIC

My bet and experience here is you won’t

Please measure at harvest if you can and revisit this thread ?
 

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