Anyone else still got slugs

John

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Location
Cambridge
First wheat behind rape. Just can't kill the little blighters, they must be getting fat as they keep eating the pellets. These 3% ones are hopeless I think. Iam sure we use more pellets now than we used to when they were stronger.
 

Desangosse Ltd

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Location
Cambs
As ever, it's all about bait quality. Try a wet process, durum wheat pellet. My premium range is TDS. See previous threads. This cold weather will reduce activity but also slow crop growth down.
 

franklin

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If the Certis pellets are anything like the old Trigger ones, they will disintegrate at the sight of moisture. I am getting much better results with the harder pellets - MAUK Gusto / Enzo are very good.
 

Badshot

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Location
Kent
Got some strong well established wheat that's getting a hammering at the minute. The plant will still be there so I'm not keen to pellet but I reckon I might have to unless the frosty weather hurries up.
 

franklin

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Using up stock. They are fine to use on things like spring beans as my drilling spring beans is the cue for heatwaves to start and make the pre-em not work.

The pellets I have been using this autumn (MAUK) are called Carakol 3, but I think they are the same as the Enzo / Gusto 3 but in a different coloured pack. They have been very good. Only thing I don't like so much is I have to take around something to cut open the bags (Dursban bag cutter is the best for this).
 

Badshot

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Couldn't be bothered to walk all the way to the worst bits but they are shredding it pretty well.
 

Desangosse Ltd

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Cambs
Using up stock. They are fine to use on things like spring beans as my drilling spring beans is the cue for heatwaves to start and make the pre-em not work.

The pellets I have been using this autumn (MAUK) are called Carakol 3, but I think they are the same as the Enzo / Gusto 3 but in a different coloured pack. They have been very good. Only thing I don't like so much is I have to take around something to cut open the bags (Dursban bag cutter is the best for this).


Understand, makes sense, one point to consider; slugs are very tenacious beasts so if you have a big enough problem to treat in the spring the same theory applies; use the best possible product (bait) to get the very best results. Gusto et al are not mine but good pellets
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
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Couldn't be bothered to walk all the way to the worst bits but they are shredding it pretty well.

Shouldn't that mean HAD shredded it pretty well - in the photo I can't see much of the newer growth with damage. That newer growth might be 3-6 weeks old. In the old days they used to say from 4 leaves the crop was strong enough & wouldn't need treating. After last year I'm not so sure.

@drummer_bruhaha Is metaldehyde still the right product to use? One agronomist I was chatting to was against using it in wetter weather as he didn't thnk that the slugs would desiccate & die.
 

Desangosse Ltd

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Cambs
Shouldn't that mean HAD shredded it pretty well - in the photo I can't see much of the newer growth with damage. That newer growth might be 3-6 weeks old. In the old days they used to say from 4 leaves the crop was strong enough & wouldn't need treating. After last year I'm not so sure.

@drummer_bruhaha Is metaldehyde still the right product to use? One agronomist I was chatting to was against using it in wetter weather as he didn't thnk that the slugs would desiccate & die.


Agree regards crop growth - 4 leaf stage is rule of thumb, my only concern is slowing of crop growth if slug numbers are high, in that case it may warrant a treatment. Looking at the photo, unless there are massive slug numbers I would say the crop "should" be fine.

The Mode of Action (MOA) of metaldehyde is an irreversible destruction of the mucus membrane (hence the slime trails). The old myth that slugs "rehydrate" is bo77ox. If a lethal dose of metaldehyde is consumed death occurs what ever the weather. The myth has come from years of poor quality bait and the failure to deliver a lethal dose in extreme weather. The modern bait quality is excellent at withstanding cold and wet weather and being able to deliver a lethal dose. My only concern with metaldehyde at this time would be if the field drains are flowing and therefore creating rapid pathways into water.
 

rob1

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Location
wiltshire
Agree regards crop growth - 4 leaf stage is rule of thumb, my only concern is slowing of crop growth if slug numbers are high, in that case it may warrant a treatment. Looking at the photo, unless there are massive slug numbers I would say the crop "should" be fine.

The Mode of Action (MOA) of metaldehyde is an irreversible destruction of the mucus membrane (hence the slime trails). The old myth that slugs "rehydrate" is bo77ox. If a lethal dose of metaldehyde is consumed death occurs what ever the weather. The myth has come from years of poor quality bait and the failure to deliver a lethal dose in extreme weather. The modern bait quality is excellent at withstanding cold and wet weather and being able to deliver a lethal dose. My only concern with metaldehyde at this time would be if the field drains are flowing and therefore creating rapid pathways into water.
What do you think of the sluxx type baits?
 

Desangosse Ltd

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Location
Cambs
Sluxx (Ferric phosphate) is a registered product and proven to work. The Sluxx pellet is better than Derrex (IMO). Ferric phosphate certainly has a place alongside metaldehyde and methiocarb. The difference with Sluxx and Derrex is that you do not see the dead slug. Methiocarb you will see dead slugs, metaldehyde you will see slime trails and dead slugs but with Iron they tend to go underground and die, so you don't get the "feel good" factor. The assessment with Iron has to be the reduction in grazing and crop damage. I know Certis are working on the colour of the pellet to overcome the colour leaching that the pellets can suffer from.
 

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