Anyone ever been involved in tarmac production?

[Doing it for the kids]

Just pondering, how hard is this to set up...

 

[renewablejohn]

Just pondering, how hard is this to set up...

Very easy if you have millions.

 

[How much]

you can buy a tar plant easy enough , there are quite often mobile batching available used. getting the stone and sand for it may be more costly as more often than not the existing stone suppliers run there own tar plants and would not i assume cut you the best of deals , plus there is extra haulage involved in taking stone from a quarry to a batching plant as opposed to making the tar at the quarry .
I don't suppose you average council planning dept are that taken with them , that could be a fight and what would the insurance cost ,im assuming you would need product liability could be pricey if some tar fails on job a few moths down the line.
on the whole a recon a concrete plant would be easier and cheaper to run and likely have more outlets ,for the product or maybe better still those mobile mix trucks they are always busy round these parts , they run on red diesel and no tacho

 

[renewablejohn]

Remember its a cartel. The top 5 companies control 80% of the market the remaining 30 companies control the rest of the market. If you want to get in the market then buy one of the 30 which will cost millions. Or buy one of the 5 which will cost billions.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Thanks everyone. Not interest d in something with the big boys, it's the builders who want 3 tons which have some appeal. Parker plant seem to have some good refurbished mobiles.

I'll keep pondering!

 

[renewablejohn]

Thanks everyone. Not interest d in something with the big boys, it's the builders who want 3 tons which have some appeal. Parker plant seem to have some good refurbished mobiles.

I'll keep pondering!

Builders have to do everything to specification. With tarmac that is very easy to determine you just take a core sample and get it tested. If it meets the spec you get paid if not you rip it up and try again at your own expense.
Parker plant is good kit but not cheap to maintain.
If you could guarantee a supply of road planings then recycled Tarmac would be an option but again the big boys dictate the raw materials.

 

[Zebbedee]

Maybe the op has his own raw materials?? Quite a few farms have they just don,t know it,,,,,,,,,

 

[Hilly]

Thanks everyone. Not interest d in something with the big boys, it's the builders who want 3 tons which have some appeal. Parker plant seem to have some good refurbished mobiles.

I'll keep pondering!

But the big boys sell the little boys as much or as little as they like, i had some laid a while ago and the gypsy wont use the little plant he like the big plant as tar hotter tar better etc etc etc etc all sinigning dancing tar plant with new delivery trucks etc can get a barrow load if he wanted or 300 ton hour, i woudnt bother if i was you, oh and the clientele you will be dealing with...................... good luck you will need it.

 

[renewablejohn]

Maybe the op has his own raw materials?? Quite a few farms have they just don,t know it,,,,,,,,,

Those days have long gone. Probably 30 years ago when the big boys bought every disused quarry with suitable stone due to the difficulty of getting permission on new stone quarries. Basically if your land is not in the area minerals plan then it will be impossible to gain permission for a new quarry.

 

[H200GT]

Been involved in it quite heavily in the past.

You will need some serious £ to get a half decent plant up and running.

Raw materials would be a concern unless you have a good source as above. You will need a variety of both high PSV stone for top coats, and a softer cheaper source like limestone for base courses. You will also need to store two types of bitumen as a minimum, usually ether a 35 or 50 pen and a 190 pen, then blend as required to make the other grades 50 ad 125.

You will also burn anywhere between 7-12l per tonne in gas oil to heat the stone, unless you use an alternative fuel like recycled oil, but that does not come without its problems, and is not a great deal cheaper anyhow.

There are also literally 100's of different mixes / mix designs, all need to be verified, and checked against specification, regular testing is a must. It far more technical than it looks.

Local authority also take a fair amount of interest in asphalt plants, mainly with concerns regarding odour and dust emissions from the stack. Expect regular compliance visits.

Tarmac once had to relay the Wrexham bypass after it failed, the cost was eye watering

Not something I would consider on a whim unless you have prior experience, concrete would be far simpler to set up.

 

[renewablejohn]

Been involved in it quite heavily in the past.

You will need some serious £ to get a half decent plant up and running.

Raw materials would be a concern unless you have a good source as above. You will need a variety of both high PSV stone for top coats, and a softer cheaper source like limestone for base courses. You will also need to store two types of bitumen as a minimum, usually ether a 35 or 50 pen and a 190 pen, then blend as required to make the other grades 50 ad 125.

You will also burn anywhere between 7-12l per tonne in gas oil to heat the stone, unless you use an alternative fuel like recycled oil, but that does not come without its problems, and is not a great deal cheaper anyhow.

There are also literally 100's of different mixes / mix designs, all need to be verified, and checked against specification, regular testing is a must. It far more technical than it looks.

Local authority also take a fair amount of interest in asphalt plants, mainly with concerns regarding odour and dust emissions from the stack. Expect regular compliance visits.

Tarmac once had to relay the Wrexham bypass after it failed, the cost was eye watering

Not something I would consider on a whim unless you have prior experience, concrete would be far simpler to set up.

Your making me feel really old.