Anyone for a Brexit ?

[Luke Cropwalker]

This is, arguably the biggest issue that UK agriculture could face for many years. What would UK ag look like if we were not part of the European Union? Yes, we would not have to pay our current levy to the EU but would we (like Norway) have to pay into the EU in order to trade with them? Would we still have to accept migrants who have traveled across continental europe as part of any trade deal? Would an independent UK feature support payments?
Ironically it looks like the Scottish voting to remain part of the UK could well be the key to the UK as a whole voting to remain in the EU.
Personally I feel that I do not have sufficient information as to what a post-EU UK would be like to make an informed choice currently.

 

[Chrisw]

I will be voting to leave. I don't believe the EU will want tariffs on trader as they sell more to us than we buy from them, our fishing industry has been systematically destroyed by skewed quotas favoring European boats in our waters. I think it highly unlikely that subs would go anytime soon, but likely that stuff like greening rules could be simpler, nfu have said that's one of the main reasons for the bps delays.
Why would we HAVE to take in migrants? Not being in the EU would allow the UK to decide entry requirements and numbers.
It could be argued that if we vote to stay in the EU, we could disband MPs and Westminster as they no longer make rules, merely enforce directives from the EU!!

 

[Formatted]

Yes

 

[holywell farmer]

This is, arguably the biggest issue that UK agriculture could face for many years. What would UK ag look like if we were not part of the European Union? Yes, we would not have to pay our current levy to the EU but would we (like Norway) have to pay into the EU in order to trade with them? Would we still have to accept migrants who have traveled across continental europe as part of any trade deal? Would an independent UK feature support payments?
Ironically it looks like the Scottish voting to remain part of the UK could well be the key to the UK as a whole voting to remain in the EU.
Personally I feel that I do not have sufficient information as to what a post-EU UK would be like to make an informed choice currently.

leaving eu could be very risky for farming industry !

 

[Chrisw]

leaving eu could be very risky for farming industry !

Staying in could be even riskier

 

[RobFZS]

Well seeing as dairy is getting hammered by imports and sfp doesn't really affect our business bottom line much, what have i got to lose? i might even have to pay less tax instead of the 50 million a day we send off helping subsidies french farmers to do nout.

Migrants will get turned away at the chunnel and calais and sent back if they don't have the correct skills that we need.

Or we could stay in, have more regulation that we have very little say, get less sfp, pay more in tax because turkey will be joining so we will have to subsidise their farmers, beef and sheep are on their arse anyway so not like they will know any different.

It's about time our politicians got a back bone and did something, just look at DC making an absolute fool of himself swanning around for some sort of stop on benefits for migrants, who cares? he's an idiot and just showing how weak we are compared to the eu commission, look at all that say we have, that he can't even get a simple thing like that, it's a joke, if maggie thatcher can get a rebate, why is call me dave fiddling about with this nonsense? total clown

 

[tje]

As a country we (uk) would be better of out ...

As a farmer i am better of in ..

 

[Frodo]

The inevitable devaluation of sterling along with the equally inevitable removal of subsidies may actually be the softest route to the market led industry many aspire.

Still not sure if it is a good or a bad idea.

 

[bovrill]

We get bombarded with huge amounts of information about leaving/staying in. I don't believe the vast majority of it.
I reckon as a country we'll be far better off getting out of the EU though.

 

[The Agrarian]

Will it mean a reinstating of proper land border controls between the UK and the Republic of Ireland?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

As you only produce 60% of what the UK eats so what, pull up the drawbridge and sod the lot if them

 

[Thick Farmer]

I wonder if the government would be so keen for Scotland to stay if they had another vote now? Oil is worth a lot less so less attractive to keep them!

As for leaving the EU. It will only be a success if we can leave and also be free of the rules they apply to us.

In order for farming to survive we would have to ban imports of food that we can produce ourselves in order to give farmers a fair deal.

The only other way of doing this is to devalue sterling to make imports less attractive - unfortunately we can't afford to do this as most industry in this country is fecked and we rely on imports to survive.

We could however reimplement all of the things that have been scrapped over the years as they didn't conform to EU regulations. A prime example being the Milk Marketinng Board.

 

[holywell farmer]

Staying in could be even riskier

farmers keep there income staying in ?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

I still haven't got any idea either way.

 

[chipsngravy]

Out for me.

I can't quite imagine what mess this country will be in 5 years down the line when all these migrants get a European passport they will be heading straight to the UK. Plus you have Turkey they will want to come here also.

Who's gonna pay for all the extra houses schools hospitals etc for them?

I've started looking at NZ and Aus

 

[Derrick Hughes]

God imagine if I had 60 million horse customers on my doorstep with a big moat around them

 

[neilo]

The inevitable devaluation of sterling along with the equally inevitable removal of subsidies may actually be the softest route to the market led industry many aspire.

Still not sure if it is a good or a bad idea.

The dairy sector is showing us what a market led industry is like. That's going well........

Does anyone in their right mind really believe that any UK government would subsidise ag production for any longer than they had to? That they would restrict imports of cheaper, foreign produce? That they would reduce the green rules that we already have, that they gold plated above and beyond what comes out of Europe (the RSPB, Badger Trust & Monbitwot have louder voices than UK Ag)?

As for migrants and refugees, we'd still be militarily involved in Syria & Iraq and would surely still have a moral duty to help some of those displaced by those activities. It may stop being 'open house', but we'd still be taking lots in.

 

[nick...]

Would be nice to see some tv telling what it all means.ive not got a clue
Nick...

 

[rob1]

why will the pound devalue if we leave ? If the money men think we will do better out then it will rise not fall

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The dairy sector is showing us what a market led industry is like. That's going well........

Does anyone in their right mind really believe that any UK government would subsidise ag production for any longer than they had to? That they would restrict imports of cheaper, foreign produce? That they would reduce the green rules that we already have, that they gold plated above and beyond what comes out of Europe (the RSPB, Badger Trust & Monbitwot have louder voices than UK Ag)?

As for migrants and refugees, we'd still be militarily involved in Syria & Iraq and would surely still have a moral duty to help some of those displaced by those activities. It may stop being 'open house', but we'd still be taking lots in.

In 4 years time my Sfp will be £30 acre , do you really think think I give a damn about that, bloody well keep it