Anyone rolling spring barley a 2nd time now it’s rained?

[Northern territory]

Chlormequat and choline chloride. It's a cheap growth regulator for cereals applied between the start of stem extension and usually the second node stage.

No rain here and non forecast, so N uptake is unlikely for a while.

 

[Pilatus]

If you want tillers, apply N. Chlormequat keeps distributor vans busy, that's all. Not even a high margin product for them unless it's one of the fancy branded versions like Meteor or Adjust. A thin crop shouldn't get leggy anyway. Manganese is, as Luke Cropwalker said, only for deficiency or where there is history of it. Rapid lush growth might trigger it if the plant can't access enough of it.

What is "Barleyquat" meant to do for a barley crop?
Can anyone remember a "Dr Sampson" or similar name(Mandops Agrochemicals)who was a great advocate of using his range of "Barleyquat and similar products way back in the 1980's ? I think his products were supposedly meant to increase the rooting and tillering of cereals, but his products came at a price,whether they really did what they were supposed to do I have no idea

 

[Brisel]

What is "Barleyquat" meant to do for a barley crop?
Can anyone remember a "Dr Sampson" or similar name(Mandops Agrochemicals)who was a great advocate of using his range of "Barleyquat and similar products way back in the 1980's ? I think his products were supposedly meant to increase the rooting and tillering of cereals, but his products came at a price,whether they really did what they were supposed to do I have no idea

The answer to your question is "boost the profit margin of Mandops!" They played around with plant gibberellin/auxin products like this but in the field they never really delivered. @Fromebridge will have done more with them than me.

 

[Gong Farmer]

Barleyquat, Bettaquat, Adjust, Meteor etc all different names for chlormequat products. Do the same as chlormequat but no more (though regulators were sometimes fooled to give them a wider window of application, giving them an advantage over chlormequat in that sense).

It's being suggested in some quarters this spring that Adjust etc will help spring barley to root in the recent dry soils. In such circumstances it will indeed help root growth, if applied in 80,000 l/ha water.

 

[Spanish]

Chlormequat and choline chloride. It's a cheap growth regulator for cereals applied between the start of stem extension and usually the second node stage.

Thanks, I understand what it is, but here in Spain that product is applied little because the crops are not as exuberant as in the UK

 

[Chae1]

It hasn't rained.

 

[ajd132]

It hasn't rained.

No. Not sure if it’s worth doing?

 

[Chae1]

No. Not sure if it’s worth doing?

I never have. Have given it a sniff of 3c 750 and some early weed control early on in the past. Basically to have the same affect. Put down roots and encourage tillering. Not doing anything this year.

I suspect my spring barley is getting to the stage its worried its going to die anyway, so doing the same thing.

Interesting how different varieties cope with dry weather. Got diablo and laureate side by side and laureate looks much thicker/greener. Sown same day, seedrate, fert etc.

 

[Brisel]

It only needs to look good the day you fill the grain store up!

 

[Chae1]

It only needs to look good the day you fill the grain store up!

That's what somebody else with a claydon once told me!

 

[Brisel]

That's what somebody else with a claydon once told me!

Jeff Claydon trains all his customers in all the excuses!

 

[Shutesy]

Anybody done this yet? Got some barley at 2/3 leaves that I think would be worth rolling again but not sure how much the crop would like it with the forecast warm temperatures for the next few days and no real rain on the radar anytime soon?

 

[Steevo]

Anybody done this yet? Got some barley at 2/3 leaves that I think would be worth rolling again but not sure how much the crop would like it with the forecast warm temperatures for the next few days and no real rain on the radar anytime soon?

I shall be rolling mine early next week once a bit more has emerged. One field is still a bit spongy so would benefit. The other two fields don't require consolidation but I think will do the crop some good. Surprisingly even the forward bits still have seeds still emerging 20 days after planting.

 

[ollie989898]

Manganese will help a crop that looks ill for a variety of reasons.

 

[Shutesy]

Manganese will help a crop that looks ill for a variety of reasons.

Think I will go across all the s barley with a good slug of Manganese fairly soon.

 

[ollie989898]

Think I will go across all the s barley with a good slug of Manganese fairly soon.

I would given how cheap it is.

 

[Steevo]

Think I will go across all the s barley with a good slug of Manganese fairly soon.

Just be sure you've plenty of leaf area to be able to absorb it.

 

[ollie989898]

Just be sure you've plenty of leaf area to be able to absorb it.

What odds do it make though? If you have a struggly crop with 2-3 leaves it is better than nothing? I used to use manganese and phosphate now and again on a crop that looked sick and it turns them around.

 

[Steevo]

What odds do it make though? If you have a struggly crop with 2-3 leaves it is better than nothing? I used to use manganese and phosphate now and again on a crop that looked sick and it turns them around.

Agreed.....though if the crop is growing (and not stuggly to use your amazing word!!) and a few more days will mean more leaf to take it up for it to jump ahead, then surely so much the better?

 

[ollie989898]

Agreed.....though if the crop is growing (and not stuggly to use your amazing word!!) and a few more days will mean more leaf to take it up for it to jump ahead, then surely so much the better?

You got to make a judgement at the time. If it looks ill I'd be inclined to do it, probably repeated the application a bit later anyway, it's sod all money.

Opposite of 'struggly' is: 'angry', BTW.