Anyone rolling spring barley a 2nd time now it’s rained?

[ajd132]

My winter barley was looking sick a few weeks ago, I put 3lha of mn and mg on (data from two years of sap testing) and it looks much better now.

 

[Pilatus]

My winter barley was looking sick a few weeks ago, I put 3lha of mn and mg on (data from two years of sap testing) and it looks much better now. View attachment 873013

Do you by any chance have a pic of what it looked like when sick a few weeks ago. Thankyou.

 

[ajd132]

Do you by any chance have a pic of what it looked like when sick a few weeks ago. Thankyou.

I don’t sorry, it looked okay but was going abit yellow and just generally looked rough. It’s still thirsty though.

 

[ollie989898]

The bulk of anything I ever looked at was on high magnesium soils. I bet mag deficiency happens more than we think.

 

[robbie]

I think I'm going to roll my triticale again today. It's only a single shoot The spring barley in the other part of the field drilled at the same time has 3 strong tillers and is now making the 4th and 5th on lots of plants.

Roll now and hit it with pgr in a weeks time is my plan at the moment.

 

[ajd132]

Tempted to roll this spring wheat tomorrow what do we all think?

 

[Brisel]

Tempted to roll this spring wheat tomorrow what do we all think?View attachment 873111

Looks good to me. More tillers won't do any harm in spring wheat if you don't mind possibly getting a small flush of weeds germinating.

 

[ajd132]

Looks good to me. More tillers won't do any harm in spring wheat if you don't mind possibly getting a small flush of weeds germinating.

Think I will do it. There’s still seedlings trying to break through the baked clay surface aswell. Might break them up abit. Hopefully rain next week.

 

[Brisel]

You'll release some more soil N too. Please post some more pics as you go please, and about a week afterwards.

 

[Warnesworth]

The bulk of anything I ever looked at was on high magnesium soils. I bet mag deficiency happens more than we think.

Mg uptake in cereals is predominantly by massflow. It there is insufficient moisture in the soil, plant mg uptake will be restricted. Mg also affects carbohydrate movement within the plant leaving accumulations in the leaves which can affect the growth of heavy carbohydrate sinks such as root development. Reduced root growth further risks other nutritional deficiency's and environmental stresses such as ....drought.

Mg is also very susceptible to leaching, so this winter may have had an affect on Mg levels in the topsoil...

Chlorosis is a late visible response to deficiency. Yield will have been compromised by the time symptoms appear.

 

[ajd132]

You'll release some more soil N too. Please post some more pics as you go please, and about a week afterwards.

Won’t harm the plants with the hot weather and strong winds?

 

[Brisel]

Some will get damaged, especially the ones pinched between the rings. Perhaps a hot sunny windy day might be a bit much for a temporarily weakened plant. @Clive is rarely bothered by the few badly damaged plants.

 

[ajd132]

Some will get damaged, especially the ones pinched between the rings. Perhaps a hot sunny windy day might be a bit much for a temporarily weakened plant. @Clive is rarely bothered by the few badly damaged plants.

The forecast looks much wetter for next week now so maybe they will recover quicker

 

[glasshouse]

Some will get damaged, especially the ones pinched between the rings. Perhaps a hot sunny windy day might be a bit much for a temporarily weakened plant. @Clive is rarely bothered by the few badly damaged plants.

Should be using a flat roller

 

[robbie]

Won’t harm the plants with the hot weather and strong winds?

I'm rolling triticale at the moment and theres a fair bit of leaf on the rolls and you can find loss leaves and shoots in places laying on the ground that have been sheared off by the ribs but I'm not worried I feel like I'm doing good.

Oddly I never worry about damage from rolling and always feel like it's doing good but I panic like hell about chemical damage which is probably far less severe.

 

[glasshouse]

I'm rolling triticale at the moment and theres a fair bit of leaf on the rolls and you can find loss leaves and shoots in places laying on the ground that have been sheared off by the ribs but I'm not worried I feel like I'm doing good.

Oddly I never worry about damage from rolling and always feel like it's doing good but I panic like hell about chemical damage which is probably far less severe.
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Your weight kit is doing more damage

 

[robbie]

Your weight kit is doing more damage

I know! I have got to take them off but I've been to lazy and haven't got around to it yet.

 

[Steevo]

The forecast looks much wetter for next week now so maybe they will recover quicker

That could change back again just as quickly knowing the forecasts.

 

[Steevo]

I'm rolling triticale at the moment and theres a fair bit of leaf on the rolls and you can find loss leaves and shoots in places laying on the ground that have been sheared off by the ribs but I'm not worried I feel like I'm doing good.

Oddly I never worry about damage from rolling and always feel like it's doing good but I panic like hell about chemical damage which is probably far less severe.
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I think that's because rolling damages part of the plant, but it's often strong enough to recover and repair the bits that are damaged.

Chemical stunts the whole plant from the inside.

 

[Shutesy]

Rolling a few slightly cloddier fields of a barley this afternoon that are about the 3-4 leaf stage. Doing a decent job crushing up any clods. Rain forecast for the next 3 days so rolling plus rain should get any remaining weeds germinated to spray in 10 days or so. Few leaves coming off but not to worried about that. Bit more concerned about causing ungerminated seeds to grow and being behind the main bulk of the crop but what will be will be, I'm calling it learning