Anyone thinking of installing heat exchange pump for central heating...think again

First this may not be correct section to put this but I am sure no one will object... a month ago our oil fired boiler was removed along with all the radiators and was replaced with heat exchange pump and efficient radiators solar panels were also fitted.. to cut a long story short
Our electric consumption has increased considerably without getting a lot of heat.. a house a few miles away with same system has similar symptoms and a local plumber does not rate this so called green heating system at all
 

Timbo

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Gods County
First this may not be correct section to put this but I am sure no one will object... a month ago our oil fired boiler was removed along with all the radiators and was replaced with heat exchange pump and efficient radiators solar panels were also fitted.. to cut a long story short
Our electric consumption has increased considerably without getting a lot of heat.. a house a few miles away with same system has similar symptoms and a local plumber does not rate this so called green heating system at all

Did you not do any research at all ?
 

dusty

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Location
Lanarkshire
I built a new house last year architect said go oil, I made the mistake of asking around ended up going air source and the jury’s still out don’t mind it as a system just struggling to pay the bloody electric bills🤦
 
First this may not be correct section to put this but I am sure no one will object... a month ago our oil fired boiler was removed along with all the radiators and was replaced with heat exchange pump and efficient radiators solar panels were also fitted.. to cut a long story short
Our electric consumption has increased considerably without getting a lot of heat.. a house a few miles away with same system has similar symptoms and a local plumber does not rate this so called green heating system at all
The problem that everyone is going to find out at some point is that until very recently uk homes were not built to suit heat pumps. Just concentrating on heating (not hot water) you've lost a radiator system using circa 80 deg water temp via radiators to heat your home. Replacing this with a heat pump which is efficient and effective upto 40 deg in effect halfs your heating capability at best. Fancy radiators/ doubling the size cannot replace the massive temperature differential. Heat pumps to stand a change of being economical HAVE to be run with underfloor heating and high levels of insulation.
 
Use oil heating and instead of spending £30,000 quid on ground/air source and the like, spend a fraction of that on insulation instead.

Ground or air source only works with modern buildings with insulation that was put in at the start.

12 inches of glassfibre or proper kingspan in the loft of an old house won't cost 10K and will be a big improvement in an older property.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
First this may not be correct section to put this but I am sure no one will object... a month ago our oil fired boiler was removed along with all the radiators and was replaced with heat exchange pump and efficient radiators solar panels were also fitted.. to cut a long story short
Our electric consumption has increased considerably without getting a lot of heat.. a house a few miles away with same system has similar symptoms and a local plumber does not rate this so called green heating system at all
man locally has ripped out his airsource to go back yo oil after getting quarterly electric bills of £1250
 
As pointed out air/ground source heat pumps only make sense in very well insulated houses with under floor heating or oversized radiators because of the lower water temperature. I'm sure that they have their place. But their place is not in the vast majority of the UK housing stock just as (in my humble opinion) electric vehicles are never going to be a solution for anything other than urbanites 'tootling' to the supermarket for their weekly shop.

The concept of air source heat pumps heating most houses in the UK or an electric 4x4 utility vehicles pulling a full Ivor Williams stock trailer across a field in a winter like 1962 leaves me shaking my head in disbelief. Neither will work IMHO. I'm sure it's not popular in green circles to point out the bindingly obvious.

The big mistake was 'pissing the North Sea Oil bounty up the wall'. Just imagine if then we had started using a percentage of that wealth to start insulating properties back in the 1970's and also built up a sovereign weath fund like Norway did. As usual everything is short term with no proper planning and the current 'green nonsense' is all being engineered as part of the 4th Industrial Revolution (i.e. another way for a lot of people to make a lot of money off the green agenda as many of the traditional industries are no longer profitable).

Ain't going to bother me too much as I don't have that many years left but I fear we are leaving a mighty mess for our grand children.
 
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