Anyone using one of these ?

yellowbelly

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was certainly easier than unloading 20 tonnes of 50 KG Nitram bags by hand .
For those of a nervous disposition ( or a bad back) look away now....
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som farmer

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somerset
Showing your age (and mine :woot:) now.

You'll be telling all these young guns about ICI Dumpy bags next :playful::playful:
i'd forgotten about them, we shared a 'fork lift' that went on the back of a tractor, with my uncle, thought it was great unloading the lorries, then spreader it with a tasker spinner, loaded with a hydraulic bucket on the back of the taskers, that held 32 cwt, seemed to take forever to load, 4 bags a time !
 

som farmer

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somerset
Quite liked those old Dumpy bags ..... was certainly easier than unloading 20 tonnes of 50 KG Nitram bags by hand .... this is going back to the days before pallets and pallet forks !!! My back has never recovered from the good old days :oops:
mine never did, it's 2 sticks and a blue badge now. When you look back, and think what we used to do, it's horrendous, but it was the norm then ! Quite rightly maximum lifting weights are applied now, and although the younger generation work hard, that heavy manual, lifting work has gone. I can't get in my head, how we managed without a telehandler !
 

JCfarmer

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Mixed Farmer
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warks
What you've never had you never miss.
I remember dad and the chaps unloading 100wt bags by hand and stacking them in the old coach houses and stables. Even I a few years later when old enough had to fill the vicon wag tail with 100 weight bags!
And even when we had our first Kramer in the mid 80's with pallet tines they would come on 1.5t pallets until dad thought I'd handled them enough and I convinced him on 1/2t bags!
 

v8willy

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Mixed Farmer
I remember those, you'd stick a Dumpy over your Vicon with your Matbro, cut the bag, letting out half the Nitram, then the bag, then the rest of the Nitram. A right old mess.
Plenty of lambing pens got made out of the old pallets somehow.
Plenty of stock farmers used the pallets for fencing holes in hedges round here, a right pain for the hedgecutter man.
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
What you've never had you never miss.
I remember dad and the chaps unloading 100wt bags by hand and stacking them in the old coach houses and stables. Even I a few years later when old enough had to fill the vicon wag tail with 100 weight bags!
And even when we had our first Kramer in the mid 80's with pallet tines they would come on 1.5t pallets until dad thought I'd handled them enough and I convinced him on 1/2t bags!
cwt ... is the correct abbreviation
centum weight.
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
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NSW, Newstralya
Err
ALL our bulka bags come with an outlet in the bottom. An outer drawstring around the opening, then a flap which covers an inner “sock” which comes out, which has another drawstring on it.
if you want to empty the whole bag in one drop, undo outer drawstring, pull out sock, untie it’s string. Opening about 40 - 50 cm diameter, empties bag very quickly.
If you want to regulate flow or easily stop flow, leave outer drawstring tight ( to create a bit of a choke so you have more control ), pull out sock & use it’s drawstring to restrict, stop flow. Very simple & easy to use

been a long time since I’ve seen a bulk bag without an opening in the bottom

although they are “one use only”, we tend to reuse the bags quite a lot for seed etc
 

Deerefarmer

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USA
I'm just curious why would you use fertilizer in bags? Seems it would be more economical to buy in bulk,say a truck load dumped on farm,not?
Split the load with the neighbor if you can't use it all... unless of course you are getting custom made blends
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
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NSW, Newstralya
I'm just curious why would you use fertilizer in bags? Seems it would be more economical to buy in bulk,say a truck load dumped on farm,not?
Split the load with the neighbor if you can't use it all... unless of course you are getting custom made blends

quite common here to buy “starter” ferts, NPK type that are applied at planting, in bulka bags ( we ONLY get 1 tonne ones here ). Normal rates are similar to seed rates of cereal crops, say 50 - 80 kg/ha, so need a lot of ha to buy in bulk / truckloads
For urea / high P rates, then yes, we generally but in bulk in truckloads
 

JCfarmer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
Err
ALL our bulka bags come with an outlet in the bottom. An outer drawstring around the opening, then a flap which covers an inner “sock” which comes out, which has another drawstring on it.
if you want to empty the whole bag in one drop, undo outer drawstring, pull out sock, untie it’s string. Opening about 40 - 50 cm diameter, empties bag very quickly.
If you want to regulate flow or easily stop flow, leave outer drawstring tight ( to create a bit of a choke so you have more control ), pull out sock & use it’s drawstring to restrict, stop flow. Very simple & easy to use

been a long time since I’ve seen a bulk bag without an opening in the bottom

although they are “one use only”, we tend to reuse the bags quite a lot for seed etc
Seed bags all have an opening and sock at the bottom, never fert bags as far as I know.
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Seed bags all have an opening and sock at the bottom, never fert bags as far as I know.

as @Deerefarmer said above, any large quantities ( say, over a truckload - 26 t ) of fert is usually bulk, so urea etc generally isn’t bagged. Starter / NPK types though are either bulk, or in 1 t bags with the opening in the bottom.

thinking about it, the only place I’ve seen bulka bags WITHOUT that type of opening is the UK when I was working there years ago
 

Deerefarmer

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Location
USA
Higher humidity too perhaps? I wouldn’t fancy climbing around on a 28t lump of Nitram with a jack hammer.
Average humidity here in spring/early summer is in the 70's% range, so as long as you use it up in 2or 3 months your okay. Have used the loader bucket to break up a few big clods before.
Urea or ammonium sulfate that is, as @Farmer Roy said ammonium nitrate isn't a fertilizer in the government's eyes.
 

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